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I know! It seemingly shouldn’t be too hard of a choice. Who the Fuck would trust a career politician!?
/J (because scarily, it’s needed)
…again
Drive home from democracy and child, reflecting… this is all a referendum on whether we choose kindness or selfishness going into the scarcity age. If evil wins today, it’s not just about this government and this population. It validates whether the uprisings in Europe are a lag behind or a forward trend.
Funny - it’s the same for roughly 50% of Americans too - which is horrifying.
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Edit: sorry it was more than 50% of Americans. Fuck everyone. Goodbye.
Even as someone who clashes with Lemmy.world users every post, I highly doubt Kamala doesn’t have the vast majority of American support over Trump. It’s that people don’t vote
Plus the system is rigged to count rural (and thus usually more conservative) votes more, so sane people have to turn out in greater numbers to keep sociopaths out of the white house
Then the people whose votes don’t matter electorally decide that the popular vote isn’t relevant, so they don’t bother.
Hey guys! If Kamala wins the popular vote by >70% but loses the election, there will be riots. There could be a revolution. And she has the numbers to do that if you guys could just vote.
If Kamala wins the popular vote by >70% but loses the election, there will be riots. There could be a revolution.
It’s adorable you think the Dems have the spine for that sort of thing.
agreed, Dem centrists havent even reached the concerned letter writing stage over a genocide. Thet are pretty far from any revolution.
My state is already called with 82% for Harris! I’m sure the final won’t be nearly that good but we’re on track to beat our previous score of 69% blue.
We’re doing what we can for popular vote
I don’t know. There’s a surprising amount of stupid people here. They live in near poverty and are easily manipulated into hating others as the reason for their miserable lives. It’s really that simple in my opinion. Yes there are lots of people who don’t vote, but I’m not sure that it would change the current split if they all did vote. We need more and better education.
That doesn’t change anything, tbh.
Apparently these people are at least complacent enough to let Trump become president. And that is horrifying.
Yeah, that’s a decision
People that don’t bother to vote are as bad as Trump supporters. The true foundation of every autocratic regime is not fear, it’s not their real supporters, it’s people that don’t care what happens as long as it’s not happening to them (yet).
It’s always that people don’t vote. Support without votes is empty wind.
It’s that people don’t vote
Yes but also no: it’s mostly that many people either CAN’T vote or can but only with extreme exercise of patience and stamina.
Get rid of all the ridiculous voter suppression obstacles and you’ll see a dramatic uptick in voting and a corresponding shift towards Dems winning almost every election, making the GOP unviable within a decade.
Neither major party wants that, though, since the Dem leadership counts on running on fear of Republicans so that they won’t have to go further left than the owner donors are comfortable with.
If the Dems won every election on center left policies, the only option left to the Rs would be to do another party switch and go further left. That’s how we get an actual left wing party.
Honestly, I’d be cool with that
We don’t have to wait for Republicans to want to become socialists (what the absolute fuck is this line of thinking?). We can have more then two viable political parties with a more representative electoral system like STAR voting.
How we.vote is.controlled.at the state level as well, so we don’t need a miracle to pass in congress to get these changes. In fact, some states have already passed legislation that replaced First Past The Post voting. Others are voting on it in referendums soon to!
So it’s possible, gets more people involved in the political process, and gets more votes for democrats.
we just need convince the DNC that democracy is a good thing.
What?!? You mean we can’t virtue signal about how the Democrats have to earn our vote, not vote, and expect the party to move away from the side that actually votes?!?!?!?!?
I get so sick of fake leftists promoting behaviors that actively go against their stated goals. I guess they’re not all fake, some of them are just psycho accelerationists who would rather get ‘dictator on day one’ than let the Democrats have power because then they might think they won’t go left if they win (and won’t admit they will just keep going right like they’ve done for over half a century when they lose).
Electing a fascist dictator to own the liberals
Easy to say when you live somewhere that voting is easy.
You honestly think Jim Crow restrictions on voting ended? The Supreme Court itself struck down the Voting Rights Act, and now you can have a single polling station for a county.
I really hate reading about how difficult it is to vote in some places. I live in a suburb that is far enough from the city that it borders some rural areas. The area is very white, and something like 3/4 red. And it is SO easy for me to vote. Every year I don’t even look into voting early or by mail because I can just roll into my polling location and fill out a ballot in minutes. And that polling location only has to accommodate my local neighborhood, like hundreds of people at most.
It’s wild how much work goes into disenfranchising people in more blue areas. How can so many people work towards that without having the “are we the baddies” moment? (Rhetorical question, I do have eyes and ears and am well aware of the shitty state of our culture)
Yeah, it’s crazy that it not only happens but is apparently ok.
I rolled into my voting place after work, which you’d expect to be busy and no line. We’re in a high cost of living part of a high cost of living blue state, but most definitely not white nor wealthy. I assume it’s the blue state that wants everyone to vote although I certifiably don’t know if there are places here where it’s different
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Genuine question, but why is Trump even allowed to run? I vaguely know that there are some restrictions on who can become President (you have to be a certain age and be born in the USA iirc), how can it be that “Hasn’t been convicted for any crimes recently” isn’t a requirement?
because political dissidents who are in jail for trying to overthrow a dictatorship should also be able to run. it’s one of those unfortunate situations where this would be a good thing to have under an authoritarian government…
Under an authorisation government though I assume the law would be rescinded, so it’s not really protecting anybody.
I mean becoming an authoritarian government to prevent an authoritarian government doesn’t really make sense
Sometimes you need to fight fire with fire
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That’s like saying we shouldn’t send anyone to prison because some of them might be innocent. You have to try your best with a system but that system has to be robust enough that it cannot be abused otherwise it will end up being abused.
If you want a system that cannot be abused then don’t remove the safeguards designed to fix mistakes.
Allowed innocents to be released from prison, and allow the disenfranchised to regain their voting rights.
This is why there is always a higher power to overrule previous decisions, and when it comes to elections there is no higher power than a majority.
It probably wouldn’t be allowed under an authoritarian government though…
of course not. the american “system of checks and balances” only works if everyone plays by the rules.
It’s one of those safe-guards that democracy implements that’s currently having rather unintended consequences.
The reasoning is that taking away voting rights is far too easy to abuse, and if a majority of people agree with whomever you wanted to prevent from voting/getting elected then you’re fucked anyway.
Which, incidentally, is looking like a very real possibility right now.
That reasoning is missing a crucial part: even if you’re fucked anyway, why is it still okay to put a criminal in charge? Will it improve anything? Or do we think of the “fucked” condition very differently?
Democracy isn’t really meant to prevent something the majority wants.
If the majority wants a criminal to lead the country they’ll elect them, or someone with the same policies, or someone who promises to put the criminal in power. The end result isn’t all that different, and the latter two could be worse in some ways.
In a democracy the majority rules, and should they decide to put a lunatic in charge, well, that would be the least of your problems.
He is literally barred from running by the Constitution because he committed an insurrection. Unfortunately the House, Senate, and Supreme Court are all somewhere between 50 and 67% Christofascist traitors.
He literally isn’t. If he literally was, he wouldn’t be running. He literally should be, by a literal interpretation of the law, but that’s literally not what’s happened.
I feel like they should introduce a rule that says that if you’re more bronzer than flesh, you’re not allowed to stand.
“But the felon promised me cheaper eggs.”
I’ve been saying this all day now, when the Nazi eventually cries about the higher food prices because they deported all the immigrants our duty is to tell them: shut the fuck up, you voted for this.
Professional career politician that supports israel and genocide*
And that makes the rapist felon better?
Didn’t say it did.
Career civil servant*
I will take the spoon please sir.
Well fuck.
That “career politician” refuses to follow the law, and stop supporting a genocide.
Still better than one of Putin’s stooges.
What law?
Leahy Law
So your only focus / concern is Israel? (if one dares to use “only” in this context)
No, that’s just the most horrible thing both Trump and Harris support. Would you like me to list all of the other policies they’re both wrong on?
Sure - enlighten me.
Huh, a post history consisting of nothing but “What did Russia ever do wrong?” and “Dems bad because genocide”. How many rubles do you get paid per post?
that doesn’t make him wrong. behaviour like this only makes us hypocrites.
the fact is biden is a genocider and harris preferred loosing the election over taking the a humane stance on this. both taking the largest donations from aipac in our election history also doesn’t look good.
Thinking that speaking out and condemning Israel would help them whatsoever shows you have literally no idea how US politics work. Let me preface this with the following: I’m well aware of the absolute atrocities going on, I don’t think the US should be supporting Israel given the shit they’re pulling, and do wish they would take action against them.
However, speaking out would be FAR more damaging than anything they’ve done so far. Do you have any idea how many Christians in the US literally think of Israel as what will bring about the second coming of Christ, and thus not supporting them would basically be seen and spun as doing Satan’s work?
The Jewish population of the US is literally double that of the Muslim population, so purely from a numbers game, any chance of even denting that support would be suicidal.
Finally, there’s the absolutely comical mainstream media bias where the very moment Harris spoke out strongly against Israel, there’d be an endless spew of how she wants to wipe Israel off the map and finish what Hitler started.
I get it, it’s fucking frustrating and tiring and disgusting what’s going on, but it’s sadly the way it has to be played at the moment, and acting like Trump being elected has any chance at improving the situation is delusional at best.
thnx but i am very much aware of how our politics works. the thing is all the evangelical and jews with pro-genocide stance were already voting for trump anyway. the anti-genocide is also a much larger demography than just muslims. many disapproved of dnc might have still voted for harris for the lesser evil reason but her supporting genocide with our tax money was just too much too ignore. then seeing the current administration full of disgusting smugs like blinken, millers just made it impossible to vote for dnc.
I can’t wait for the Russian troll farm employees to get drafted.
You’ll be waiting a long while then, because unlike NAFO trolls, that’s scarcely a thing.
- Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
- Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
- Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
- Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
- Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
- Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
- Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
- MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
- Jeff Gerth at Columbia Journalism Review on Russiagate: Editor’s Note | Part one | Part two | Part three | Part four
- Matt Taibbi: WMD, Part II: CIA “Cooked The Intelligence” To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
- Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away
US foreign policy is supporting literal Nazis in Ukraine, ISIS in Syria, and genocide in Palestine.
At this point, it’s less embarrassing to be falsely accused of being Russian than to be correctly accused of being American. We’re the bad guys.
The Nazis are in Russia, not Ukraine.
The Ukrainians are naming streets after and erecting statues of famous Nazis.
But wherever they are, take them out. Nazi lives don’t matter, whether Russian or Ukrainian.
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
There have been some fascist elements in Russia. The late Western Liberal darling Alexei Navalny, for one[1][2][3].
Wow, that’s some fucking cherry-picking.
Hmm, I wonder why would someone spend their time collecting headlines with a certain agenda…
russia is not only a joke country, but it’s also a terrorist state that’s held together by fascist drunks.
Hmm, I wonder why would someone spend their time collecting headlines with a certain agenda…
Upthread: https://lemmy.ml/post/22157132/14746020
russia is not only a joke country, but it’s also a terrorist state that’s held together by fascist drunks.
That sounds more like the US than any other country in the world [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
You know that I’m not clicking any link that’s posted by an .ml account, right?
Also, that sounds exactly like russia, comrade.
Naw, you’re not the bad guys. You’re the clowns.
You mean Putin?
Wait no, they aren’t supporting a genocide. They are actively committing one.
Where? I haven’t read about a recent Russian genocide.
In the definition that they’re trying to erase Ukrainian cultural identity.
Prior to the Russian invasion, the far-right Ukrainians spent 8 years committing a genocide of ethnic Russians in the east. A number of human rights orgs called attention to it. I haven’t heard any of them accusing Russia of one.
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New York Times, Feb. 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
America wasn’t built on just immigrants, it was built upon a certain type of immigrants: opportunists who placed greed above everything else. It shows.
The first waves, sure. Once you get to the Irish escaping the famine or the Italians escaping Mussolini, it became more about just survival.
The OGs were racist as fuck towards them, too.
They served as fuel for the social structures the first waves built.
I have qualms about casting Harris as a “career” politician. He first election for DA was in 2003. To get from running for DA to running for US President in 21 years is a very short ride. She was born in 1964.
Hell, Trump ran for President (Reform Party) in 2000, so he’s been a “politician” longer than Harris. So if she’s a “career politician,” then so is he.
Not that there’s anything wrong with being a politician for a long time, as long as the politician is serving her constituents to their satisfaction and avoids corruption.
This is probably the dumbest comment you could have made.
Harris has spent her entire adult life in the legal system, she was hired as a deputy district attorney in 1990. Trump starred on the apprentice and tanked like 6 businesses in that amount of time. Trumps faux run in 2000 does not compare to the 30+ year career.
It’s pathetic how anyone will give Trump credit for the stupid, minimal, joke of a job he does but Harris has to jump through flaming hoops to get the credit she deserves.
Besides simple name calling, you really do need to put like 5 more seconds into your complete line of logic. Trump’s entire career, in or out of politics, is a flaming pile of shit. How would you even mention Harris and corruption in the same sentence but completely glaze over all the actual evidence of corruption around Trump? Blows my mind the mental gymnastics that must be involved to have any line of thought comparing Trump to ANYONE. He’s an abhorrent human not even looking at his failed shitty businesses and disgusting performance as POTUS.
This take is comical. Trump ran for president in 2000 then did fuck all politically except hoard wealth until the 2016 run. Harris has been in political positions and actively working in politics for over two decades. Regardless of age, if anyone works for 20 straight years at something, it’s fair to say they’ve made a career of that thing.
