• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    when things get much worse for people, they might have no choice but to try something else

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    bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe WhY bOtHeR vOTiNg sLeEpY jOe memes!
    Then I did nothing about it between presidential elections. Nothing. Did not lift a single goddamned finger. Four years later, I demand the party cater to me, Me, ME. An utterly useless deadweight. And smug about it.

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      bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe

      The Daddy Party comes home drunk from the party and beats you with his belt.

      The Mommy Party cries in the corner, telling you there’s nothing she can do because you didn’t support her enough.

      Then I did nothing about it between presidential elections.

      People blink in and out of existence between elections. Nobody actually exists when they aren’t voting.

      Nobody organized with their coworkers to form unions. Nobody carried for relatives that had lost work or gotten sick from the pandemic. Nobody provided care for young children or volunteered to help impoverished neighbors or mucked out homes after devastating hurricanes. Nobody went to school to get advanced degrees in fields necessary for building out green energy or modern transit or dense housing or criminal justice.

      Nobody. Did. Anything.

      Four years later, I demand the party cater to me, Me, ME.

      When you think about it, denouncing genocide is an entirely selfish act.

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      Well, it would be happier if at least one side catered to voters as opposed to billionaires.

      That said, it’s not the fault of only Harris and her campaign, it’s the Democratic leadership from the past 20 years that allowed it to get this bad.

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      Smug is such a perfect word for all the morons that decided not to vote, because Harris wasn’t able to fix a 8 decade long problem from the vice president’s desk.

      Smug and stupid, because a lot of the Palestine crap posted was done by bots and saboteurs to fracture the left, and oh boy did it work.

      Have you noticed how no-one is screeching about Palestine since the election?..

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        I guess you don’t listen to Democracy Now. They’ve been reporting on Palestine every day since the election. The Ralph Nader Radio Hour has been talking about it since the election, too.

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        morons that decided not to vote

        The only people I see on this board are people who held their noses and voted while complaining nobody else voted but them.

        The non-voters aren’t on social media telling you they aren’t going to vote. They’re simply checking out entirely.

        The only people who hear you are the ones that did vote for the shitty compromise candidate and are now getting abuse from you because they didn’t vote hard enough.

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        No, people against genocide are not bots, and liberals have not ever been the left. You people love genocide until it might affect you, you’re not the left.

        And just because you were banned from spaces because you were pro genocide, doesn’t mean anyone has stopped talking about Palestine.

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        Yep. It was pretty wild that some people actually fell for the Palestine argument. That was only really an issue for a very small minority of the left. Most average Americans couldn’t find it on a map, much less a reason to give a shit about it.

        Ultimately, it wasn’t even necessary to try and fracture the left with the Palestine argument. It was already fractured enough that she never stood a chance.

        Even in a fairly normal race, it’s silly to think voters would care more about people half a world away, rather than the issues they’re dealing with themselves like the high cost of living, housing shortages, etc.

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          He is right about that, you just censored the people who pointed out the problems.

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    If you’ve never received thousands of downvotes for stating a boring position, are you even alive?

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    The kids of parents who actually tried to fight to give them a decent future and world to live in:

    “My parents died in prison. They committed suicide in their cells by shooting themselves in the back of their heads somehow.”

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      Totally legit response in regards to resource exhaustion and climate change, but IMO not regarding the degradation of democracy. In a larger scale this could easily lead to a demographic shift towards regressive political views.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m not gonna put into a kid into this world, especially not for reasons of ideological puppeteering, but to conclude my too serious take on the meme and your comment, I do not quite see how they are related.

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    As an aside, I like how the intention of the original poster aged like milk. No one sees “The Great War” as great by those who survived it and by the future. It is not talked about positively in the same way as Napoleonic wars or the Second World War (except if you were an Axis soldier or civilian victim of war crimes of course).

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      Stop glorifying wars they all suck

      This is the best definition of war I’ve heard:

      Big wigs know each other and can’t get along. Then they send people who don’t know each other to kill each other. Big wigs lives are never under threat.

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        Not trying to glorify wars, but what I’m saying is that some wars have a purpose or cause at least. Like the Napoleonic wars is about new type of government under new found liberal values versus the old system of absolute monarchy that values stability and familiarity. The current war in Ukraine is about stopping imperialism and the wanton violation of international rule (there isn’t technically any rule because international laws are non-binding but that is a different topic I won’t delve for now).

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    “Well, I also was good at finding faults in anyone who were trying to improve some things and attack them for not improving all things.”

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      Absolutely hate the people who would sell out my child’s future over some holy war in the desert held by idiots—I mean religious zealots—terrorizing each other. They’re both wrong, don’t sell us out over it.

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        not each other. western countries esp the us are the ones provoking and arming them for decades. not just in the middle east either.

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        It’s comments like these that make non-americans like me pray for the fall of the American Empire. Seriously, you people don’t even see the people you murder overseas as human.

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          I don’t murder anyone. I don’t support either side of that conflict. I don’t like religious people very much. I’d cut support for Israel with the snap of my fingers if I could.

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            You look at a genocide being committed by your government that you support and say “I hate people who would oppose it”

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              Because they’re fine with us living in an authoritarian state (that is even less friendly to Palestine, btw) for the sake of it.

              You had a better chance of stopping or slowing it if you didn’t let the other side take over our entire government, now Israel has a full pass. Your strategy backfired and made America worse for it.

              Sometimes you have to know how to pick and choose your battles. Just like Oct 7 was a cowardly and incredibly stupid move of you truly wanted to end the apartheid state. Murdering people at a music festival was stupid. Maybe if you had fought the IDF in an actual war declared for independence you would’ve have a shit ton more support globally

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                You had a better chance of stopping or slowing it if you didn’t let the other side take over our entire government

                Too many Lemmyites didn’t vote hard enough. That’s why every single state in the country trended Republican in 2024. You fucking idiots on a 4th rate social media site ruined things for everyone.

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                See what I mean? You American’s are absurdly selfish; you’re fine committing genocide so long as you don’t have to live in an “authoritarian state” (I would argue that a state that is committing genocide regardless of how the people vote is already authoritarian, but as I said, you don’t consider foreigners humans)

                Naturally a genocidal American like you thinks Palestinians should never fight back and just meekly be destroyed. You also disprove your own point by demonstrating that no matter what they do, you’ll always believe the propaganda from Israel: like how you think October 7th was just “Murdering people at a music festival”, when it involved attacking multiple military bases and killed hundreds of IDF soldiers (ending up with a far better civilian to soldier ratio than Israel ever does.)

                In general, American’s have made it clear that they will never stop killing us by the thousands, and that the only thing that will end it is the collapse of your empire, so in that regard, I welcome anything that destabilizes the USA, and I’m certainly not going to feel sympathy for genocidal Americans getting a taste of what they do to us.

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        Idk, that seems like a pretty shit take to me. It’s not the voting choice I made, but I can see where people are coming from. It’s not just the US selling arms to hostile occupiers, it’s running around with the Cheney’s and the general abandonment of the working and middle class.

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      “Have you considered that it just wasn’t thrilling enough for me to vote against literal fascism?”

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        I’m still not sure what was the reason not to vote the lesser of two weevils here. Some hope that if you show Democrats by not voting them they’ll do the things those people have been calling for? I’d fear they’ll just think of those people as unreliable voters and will just try to get the votes from those who do vote.

        Pretty risky move in any case, with Trump being the other alternative.

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          Idealism on the part of the true believers and not the Russian bots. I prefer realism but they are ultimately right, if everyone refused to support evil in any form it wouldn’t exist.

          The problem being the average American loves the taste of boot so it’s not that it might not work, eventually, it’s that the world is out of time.

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          A part was something in the vein of “voting doesn’t work, bring back the guillotines”. I think they’re called “accelerationists” due to the belief that the current state of affairs can’t be fixed and only by violent revolution can society be rebuilt (in their imagine).

          So, some people wanted Trump to win in order to have everything fail and justify blowing shit up.

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            Accelerationism refers to the idea of intentionally making capitalism the worst version of itself so that people have to revolt. It doesn’t work; it makes everything worse without accomplishing the end goal. Generally, the people making these arguments aren’t coming right out and saying they’re accelerationists, but they get there indirectly.

            People won’t bring the revolution just because things are bad. You need class consciousness first.

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            Somehow I think pretty much none of those people are going to do jack and shit. Being a revolutionary is hardcore and I can respect that but only posting memes online is some Reddit ass slacktivism.

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              Being a revolutionary means you are willing to die for your cause. Ain’t none of those wannabes willing to die for anything. As long as they have their steam deck.

              They just to cry to their mommies and expect the world to cater to their every want and whim. Life doesn’t work like that and never has.