I’m aware of the NCIS scenes, what else you guys got?

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    When someone’s falling hundreds of feet and when they’re inches from the ground a super hero swoops in from the side to grab them.

    Sure, they didn’t hit the ground but not only did you catching them slow down their vertical velocity just as fast as the ground would have, now you’ve accelerated them horizontally so fast that they’re now twice as dead as they would’ve been otherwise

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      My head canon, at least with Superman, is his powers. He doesn’t have multiple unrelated powers, but only 1 main one. Instinctive momentum control.

      • Flying - Momentum control

      • Bullet proof - Momentum stopped at the point of contact.

      • Heat beams - Changing the momentum of particles he’s focused on.

      • Holding a plane by a thin aluminium sheet - Adjusting the momentum of the plane directly.

      • No sonic booms, or massive wind - momentum nulling on the nearby air.

      In this case, catching a falling person safely makes complete sense. He just nullifies their momentum before they hit.

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        I guess you could explain it like that, but I’d really prefer it if they just started writing Superman stories with a more realistic depiction of the world around Superman in mind. It would add more drama since, while Superman himself is invulnerable, the rest of the world isn’t, so Supes should have to be extremely careful with how he uses his powers if he’s actually going to save anyone.

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        Actually not a bad rationale, especially given the era when Superman started - it reminds me of E.E. “Doc” Smith’s inertialess drive.

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    Hacker shit. Some lone genius passing through systems intended to be secure for militaries and governments. It’s not about details being stupid, that’s to be expected. It’s about the very fact of power imbalance.

    Random characters challenging militaries and governments and just “quickly finding” some qualified assistance in doing that. And winning. You don’t. You are an amateur and they are professionals. And if you want to do that, you are likely already under personalized surveillance.

    That last thing is a trope from a free society where some people on the top are bad. And fighting them you can find help and learn, because in some sense you are protected, and guaranteed privacy and safety. There are no such free societies on our planet right now. The closest you can get is probably to join Hezbollah or some mafia, that is, well-established powerful organizations.

    On the contrary, Luke Skywalker taking a lucky shot at a vulnerability that a team of engineers and military men, all of which were high-level Imperial defectors, with support from many planets of what is the Star Wars alternative of Western Europe and North America, had found by analyzing space station’s stolen blueprints, using computers and what not, is realistic. Similarly to the Empire (at that moment with kinda democratic Senate and all) being fine with anyone on the way being murdered trying to contain such high-value corpus of information.

    Again, I love Star Wars so much. A lot of the materials written in AotC and RotS time describe very well, in my modest opinion, how the real world oppression really works and how you can’t really escape evil or defeat it. The best you can do is survive till that evil dies on its own, but the realistic best is planting the seeds for that time.

    In general everything showing fighting your enemy as something easy, impressing upon audience that if it didn’t work out in a month, then you just give up and do something more pleasant, deceiving yourself.

    At the same time the sheer extent to which personal brilliance and hard work and persistence can change the world is often downplayed in movies. Drastic changes made by characters are attributed to magic or being in some unlikely situation. But the whole reason for previously described power imbalance is that professionals perpetuate their knowledge and understanding every day, and if one’s persistent, one can beat them.

    Yes, I like fiction about justice and fighting evil.

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      Luke Skywalker taking a lucky shot at a vulnerability that a team of engineers and military men, all of which were high-level Imperial defectors, with support from many planets of what is the Star Wars alternative of Western Europe and North America, had found by analyzing space station’s stolen blueprints, using computers and what not, is realistic.

      I’m guessing you haven’t seen Rogue One. The architect of the death star was sympathetic to the rebellion and deliberately created the vulnerability of the reactor that needs only a single hit with a blaster to blow up the entire megastructure, sent a message to the rebellion explaining said flaw and instructing them to aquire the designs of the death star to identify where the reactor is so that they can exploit the flaw.

      Having been involved in large (software) projects this seems quite plausible that someone near the top could intentionally leave a backdoor in there and have it go unnoticed into live testing, especially with the mix of disciplines needed in constructing such a megastructure

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    One that annoys me is “Oh, you can’t pay for your food, you work for the restaurant now till you’re paid off!”

    Getting past the absurd number of Labor Laws and Sanitation Regulations we’re violating with that set-up, in addition to how badly this is pissing off of the union if the restaurant happens to be unionized…

    Most modern restaurants have dish washing machines minimizing the need for bus boys.

    Additionally, there’s a little thing called job training that typically has to be done. You don’t just throw a mop at a guy and tell them to get to work, even if they’re experienced each place has their own way of doing things. It’s why it’s actually really hard to get fired in real life, laid off sure, but actually fired? Unless you’re just THAT incompetent… Cause these things take time and money.

    And because you didn’t do any training, all your deadbeat patron has to do is cut his hand trying to dry off a knife and he’s not only paid off, but he’s gonna own the fucking joint when his lawyer hears about this shit.

    So what DOES the establishment do? Well it depends, but the most common scenario I’ve heard is that they take some form of collateral until you come back another day to pay them, and that’s usually for a fancy restaurant. For most places though you’d pay before you even got your food making this a non-issue.

    That’s the most common one, there are some that are less common but still get on my nerves.

    It could make sense if it’s a long time ago when the population is much lower, there aren’t as many labor laws, but I think even by the 60’s this scenario would be bizarre if it actually happened. I could see it happening in modern day, but it’d have to be a very specific set of circumstances

    1. Easy Sex Change - Now the name for this might be somewhat dated because no one refers to it as a “Sex Change Operation” anymore, but I can’t think of a better name for it. Basically there’s this idea in fiction that you can just go into any hospital looking like Fred Flintstone, and come out the same day looking like Pamela Anderson in her prime.

    Medical Science does not work that way

    The Transgender Healthcare standards wouldn’t let it happen that quickly as you need doctor’s notes (Hell I’m Post-Op for the better half of a decade and I’m still trying to get a note for a purely cosmetic boob job)

    Doctors actually trained to do Genital Reconstruction Surgery are extremely rare, nearest one to me is three states away, and I’m not even sure he’s still alive because that was 8 years ago and he was older than dirt.

    Genital Reconstruction only changes what you’ve got going on down there, and until very recently wasn’t covered by most insurance. All the other changes? You have to do estrogen for years and hope for the best.

    The body can’t recover that quickly (I literally had to spend the better part of a morning learning how to walk again after being bedridden for two to three after that… till then my body was still healing and I was basically immobilized… also having to learn to pee was weird. Trust me you don’t wanna be in a situation where you really have to pee but literally don’t know how because the functionality of your genitals has been reversed.)

    Admittedly I’m seeing it less and less as the idea of transpeople existing is mainstream now, but from the perspective of a transwoman like myself it’s the trans equivalent of someone asking a homosexual male how they know which man’s penis will open up to accept the other’s.

    1. Ordering food at a doctor’s office - I’ve not seen this too often, but I have seen it more than once, which is enough to baffle me.

    2. The Death Card - I just want a script writer to do a scene where someone draws Death, gets super scared, has it explained to them that the card isn’t that bad. As it refers to death in a spiritual sense, meaning not the cessation of existence, but rather the continuous cycle of rebirth… So it’s actually referring to change… And then immediately they draw the Inverted Tower (Which actually does mean that you’re in for a bad time). I’m just surprised I haven’t seen this joke done before…

    Wait a second…

    Simpsons did it - https://youtu.be/M-dButYcv14

    Though to be fair, I think this is one everyone who isn’t in Hollywood knows at this point. But as someone who actually practices Tarot it is annoyed.

    1. The movie Clerks 2 - Look I love Kevin Smith, I think he does great work, I’m even one of the only people who love Clerks 3… but… I can’t just point to one thing in this film. Pretty much everything about Clerks 2 requires a lot of suspension of disbelief as it’s obvious that Kevin Smith is too rich in 2006 to know how fast food joints work at the time.

    The part where they close up to a Donkey Show definitely stands out, as chain franchised Fast Food restaurants are not only too busy for that to be plausible unlike a random gas station in the boonies (like in the first movie), but it’s 2006, while it’s not as common of a practice now, most McDonald’s/Taco Bells/Wendy’s of this era would have been 24 hours.

    1. Video Games in general - If movies are to be believed, video games now are basically the same as they were in the 70’s. Atari sound effects, high scores, limited lives, games having “levels”… When in reality games have moved on, most games don’t really test the player’s skill so much as tell you a story through in an interactive medium. So your progress isn’t really based in how many points you’re getting, but rather how far in the story you’ve gotten. Lives aren’t really a thing anymore for the simple fact that if your streaming platform gave you an overly tough quiz half-way through the movie about things you saw in previous scenes, and punished you by making you re-watch the whole thing up until you got to the quiz again. No one would watch movies ever again.

    Actually it’s become a bit of a problem for the market as too many gamers are becoming annoyed that games are too much like movies funnily enough…

    Now Mobile games play more like classic arcade games, sure… but in movies they’re clearly playing consoles. Heck even re-releases of games that did have limited lives and a scoring system (Sonic Origins for example) took them out to modernize the experience. Which is kind of a good thing because older games were artificially difficult to prevent you from beating the game over the weekend as a method to discourage rental services.

    In the early 2000’s, sure I guess I can buy that. Gaming was a niche hobby, good to dumb it down I guess. But nowdays it’s considered weirder to not play games than to play them, so I don’t know how this mistake keeps getting made.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if my grandmother had a fucking Steam account to play TF2 Themed Solitaire on. Because the oldest guy in my writing group has one to play Civilization and he’s fucking 80.

    1. Ditching a cop - In movies if you get in trouble and police are after you, just run away! You’ll ditch them and whatever you did will be forgotten about. In reality: Warrants for arrest exist, the charge for resisting arrest exists, and so do body cams… So, no, not really.

    My final one is

    The Monitor is the computer! The tower is just decoration! - But, this cliche has vanished thanks to computer use becoming more common.

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      Ditching a cop

      I’ve done that too… On a bicycle no less, and the cop was on a motorcycle. But I knew the neighborhood better. Basically if you can get far enough ahead to take a couple turns, and the last turn isn’t an obvious one, and you don’t have/they haven’t seen a license plate, it’s possible. Still a bad idea, I will not argue that.

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          I was 18, but yes, that would have been 1994 or 5, so no bodycams, meaning if the guy had caught me, he could have beat the shit out of me with impunity.

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      “Oh, you can’t pay for your food, you work for the restaurant now till you’re paid off!”

      but I think even by the 60’s this scenario would be bizarre if it actually happened.

      I did it as recently as 1994… Little bit different situation, I let them know in advance I had no money, but was willing to work for a meal, I didn’t surprise them by ordering first then telling them when I was done… But they did have me eat first before putting me to work. I think that was to see how serious I was- feed me first, then if I’m a bum, they’re only out one meal, but if I’m still willing once I’ve eaten, I’m probably worth trusting with a few basic tasks. It worked out, I ended up staying there a couple days (slept on a couch in their lounge, it was a truck stop so they had showers too) and in addition to a few meals, $50 cash.

      What you say is mostly true about big chains like Denny’s, or anywhere near a city, but most rural mom & pop places would at least consider it.

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        I dunno, I live in a pretty rural area and pretty much every small business would either laugh at that offer or just give you the food for free because they felt sorry for you.

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    If a girl doesn’t like you, but you just keep pursuing her, everything will eventually work out and you’ll be happy together.

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      It worked for a friend of mine. They were friends, he kept trying to get her to date him and after a year of pestering she caved. They’re engaged now.

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        not making any claims about your friend’s situation, but i’ve seen this happen more than once also–pestering, caving, engagement-- and they ended very badly.

        getting engaged or even married does not necessarily mean “happy together”

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      Being told this time and time and time again has really fucked the male psyche over the years.

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      Uhm, it kinda happened for me, I felt that this girl liked me but she said no the first time. I stuck around, as we were in the same group of friends, and after a while she changed her mind. We’ve been together for over a decade.

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        There’s an entire genre of tiktok videos out there of women saying things like “So this guy I like asked me out, and I said no, and he was like okay bye and just walked away. What is with men not pursuing women anymore?”

        Hmm what was that hashtag popular a few years ago? #nomeanskeepgoing?

        “No means no” they said. Meanwhile in this very thread: “I’m actually in love with the guy that stalked me.”

        If you want no to mean no, you have to say different things when you mean something other than no. If you want to play hard to get, A) don’t, you suck at it and B) maybe let him know that’s the game you’re playing so he’ll actually try hard to get you instead of just taking a flat rejection at face value; ie don’t just say “no” say “You’ll have to try harder than that” or something that indicates you are open to further attention. What saying “no” when you actually mean “try harder” accomplishes is you filter out the guys who take no for an answer leaving your dating pool only filled with the men who don’t really care that much about consent.

        As for the “I turned him down becuase I wasn’t interested in him, then we actually talked and turned out I actually like the guy” story…I guess maybe try actually talking to guys? Even if you don’t cream your gusset at first sight?

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      Ya know, it kinda makes sense that Hollywood is full of sex criminals when you look at romantic comedies and are always left wondering “And he’s not in jail why?”

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        There’s a Christmas movie called Holiday in Handcuffs where a woman abducts a dude to play her boyfriend so her family gets off of her back, and naturally they actually fall in love by the end but also HOLY SHIT HOW IS THAT A THING

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      Unfortunately, this one goes both ways. Some women feel like they need to play hard to get, because otherwise they’re sluts, and also they want to know that a guy really likes her. It’s self defeating of course, on both sides.

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        I watched Reality Bites as a teenager, and I’m convinced it had a negative influence on my life.
        The character Ethan Hawke played became my role model, and he’s just not a very good one, at all.

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    How night and day work above the Arctic Circle.

    Movies and TV and stories talk about how there’s 6 months of daylight and 6 months of darkness. That does not fucking happen. This is still part of storytelling to this day (I’m looking at you, Sweet Tooth season 3).

    Days get stupidly long in the summer, and there’s a while where the sun really doesn’t go down. in the Winter days get stupidly short, and there’s a while where it doesn’t really come up all that much. But it’s not 6 months of one and 6 months of the other.

    (edited for clarity)

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      (I’m looking at you, Sweet Tooth season 3).

      Tell me about it. And sunsets aren’t from a bright day to a dark night. During winter “days” are permanent twilight, the sun being very very low all the time it’s above the horizon, and during the summer, “nights” are dim because the sun is never that far below the horizon.

      Sweet Tooth had pretty much a countdown iirc. And then it went from 100% daylight to complete darkness in seconds.

      edit also i’m annoyed when people don’t wear hats in the cold but iirc in Sweet Tooth they had pretty good winterclothing most of the time idk.

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    In movies when there’s a huge explosion in space, there’s always this ring that comes out from the explosion. No!

    In space the blast wave would be spherical: it only looks like a 2d ring when observed from a telescope many many light years away, since the telescope can only pick up the outside edge of the blast.

    Edit: fixed auto-incorrect

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      I remember very vividly when they redid the special effects in the original Star Wars trilogy and added this dumbass ring coming out of the Death Star explosion. It completely broke immersion for me because I was like “wtf is that supposed to be?”

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        You could make an argument that there was some kind of huge spinning gyroscope reaction wheel system on that axis which projected the explosion that way.

        But we all know there wasn’t.

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    One of the GIJoe movies ends with an underwater arctic base being crushed by ice that is dislodged from a bomb blast on the ice shelf above. Neat except ice doesn’t sink. I’m sure there are all manner of inaccuracy in those movies but that one really stuck with me.

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      Ice sinks to a certain point. If being attached to the shelf was holding that ice up higher than it would float, it’ll sink.

      Don’t know if the movie shows it sinking further than that though, but the general assertion that ice doesn’t sink at all is definitely mistaken.

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    The Dark Knight trilogy really wanted to be a realistic, grounded take on the Batman mythos, so they dropped the more fantastical elements of some characters’ backstories. Ra’s Al Ghul was no longer immortal, Bane didn’t have super steroids, the Joker wasn’t permanently bleached by chemicals…then there’s Two-Face.

    I guess they thought acid burns were too unrealistic, so they gave him regular burns…apparently without knowing that burns that severe would be so painful that he wouldn’t even be able to remain conscious, much less run around the city on a killing spree. I mean, you can see exposed muscle in some places. There’s a line where Gordon says he’s rejecting skin grafts, and I remember thinking, “WTF are you talking about? He should be in a medically induced coma, not making healthcare decisions.” Half of his body was an open wound; I’m amazed he didn’t die of infection 15 minutes after he left the hospital.

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    I just fired a gun right next to your head, neither of us was wearing ear protection, and now we’re having a conversation at normal volume and we can understand each other just fine.

    Bonus points for grenades going off indoors, and nobody having a concussion after.

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      Depends on the gun. 9mm would be a normal conversation, 50. cal by the being shot close to your head with no hearing protection hurts

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        9mm would be a normal conversation

        Right after it being fired right next to your head? With no ear protection?

        Permanent hearing loss aside, I’d probably have a few very harsh words for the idiot firing irresponsibly rather than a “normal conversation” 🙄

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      Just an fyi for those that seem to think otherwise.

      A .38 fired too close, not even next to, you when you don’t have hearing protection can cause temporary total hearing loss and lifetime hearing loss that amounts to a disability.

      Also hearing loss can be a strong influence on getting severe depression.

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    A more mundane one, but people on reasonably normal incomes living in a house that’s at least one order of magnitude more expensive than they could ever afford even if they purchased it twenty or thirty years ago. Its particularly bad in things set in expensive areas like London or New York or Tokyo. Like being able to afford a house in central London rather than renting a flat with three other people takes substantial money, you aren’t going to be afford that if you work in a supermarket.

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      The apartment in Friends is rent controlled and leased by Monica’s dead grandma. She’s been committing fraud for years to keep the apartment affordable.

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          You forgot the gifted statistician with a stable high paying job in data analytics which he hates. It’s the dullest work you could imagine and he makes a fortune from it.

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    All of this stuff makes me wonder how hard it would be to make a fully pedantic story.

    I’ve seen books where the hero was on the verge of winning but gets randomly concussed by a piece of shrapnel. Disoriented, hospital.

    Another where the hero had hearing loss issues from solo pistol badassing too much, sans ear protection. (Forgot the titles of these stories).

    But what would it take to meet everything? Imagine Superman. Now he has to mind his acceleration to save people. He also has to mind distribution of force, since he can’t lift a plane without puncturing it. (Maybe he can make a little energy net under the plane somehow to distribute pressure?) And then he has to mind the Law of Conservation of Energy unless he splits apart matter somehow. And then this and that…

    Will adherently realistic changes downrank most stories? I for one laugh my ass off when The Rock flexes his broken arm cast off in F&F.

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        Well, I don’t mean downgrade him totally! Give him super strength or something but take it to its conclusion.

        Authors realized this problem with Flash, so they added a mildly magic mystery Speed Force thing that solves the too-many-Gs problem with “nah he just slows time down or something and the Speed Force is mysterious and different” iirc.

        But without the handwaviness he’d need to watch acceleration and calorie counts and speed up his thoughts and not slip and fall into an inertial death. If that makes sense (-‿-")

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        You have super strength. You attempt to lift an incredibly heavy object and… You push your legs into the ground instead. That’s not just some guy, but it is a lot less useful of a power lol

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      Dialogue existing in the John Wick films is totally unrealistic. The next film should just be him saying “What?” For 90 minutes with a high pitched squeal in the background

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      Thinking of your Superman example and an ubermensch having to think about everything, I think several comics and media that have explored aspects of this idea.

      I remember reading that there’s a Spiderman story arc where it’s revealed that Peter Parker is holding back his “true” strength for nearly the entire time he’s been Spiderman. It’s only been his true strength of character that has made sure that he “pulls his punches” far enough back so as to not kill or harm the people he’s fighting or saving.

      I also think about Robert Kirkman’s Invincible comic/animated series that explores how powerful people decide, either intentionally or accidentally, the fates of those around them, often with dramatic and violent conclusions. Invincible is the story of Superman if Clark Kent wasn’t raised by an American family in the mid-West and was instead raised for another more sinister reason.

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        Gwen Stacey died of whiplash when Spidey tried to catch her with a web shot and she stopped too fast, snapping her neck.

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    This happens with fire sprinklers a lot, one sprinkler goes off, and triggers the rest of the floor, or sometimes even building.

    That’s not how it works. Each sprinkler has it’s own trigger mechanism, the glass bulb, and cannot trigger another sprinkler.

    There are systems where this happens, but the sprinkler heads look very different, and you won’t find them in an office building.

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      Theoretically the water hammer effect might be able to break that glass, but I think it’s unlikely.

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        I don’t think water hammer would apply because there’s no abrupt cutoff or change in direction of the flow.

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        Yes. A combination of rust, thread cutting oil, and water that has been in the pipes often since the system was filled. It smells, it will stain anything it touches, and it’s a smell that’s difficult to remove.

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      Also I’ve heard that the water that first comes out of those sprinklers is RANK from having sat in the pipes for years

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        It definitely is.

        It has a particular smell that doesn’t come out of fabric easily, either.

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      Don’t you need to get the bullet out before patching them up? I don’t remember ever seeing a movie where it’s implied that digging the bullet out is sufficient, only that it’s a necessary step.