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      Right side of History, sure, but,

      For it’s the end of history

      It’s caged and frozen still

      There is no other pill to take

      So swallow the one

      That made you ill

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        you know, that the end of history crap is what that song criticizes, making it a really strange way to reply to someone saying something is on the right side of history.

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    So when Netflix made a film adaptation of 13 Reasons Why they called in specialists to try and make it tasteful. What happened was they were faxed a list of shit NOT TO DO, only some dumbass in charge of production mistook it for a list of “THINGS YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD DO! DO IT! IT’LL BE FUNNY!”, leading to outrage from said professionals who then pondered why they were consulted at all if they were going to be so blatantly ignored and a spike of suicides that coincided with release of the thing. Ya know cause glorifying suicide to a bunch of suicidal people is probably not going to end will.

    Anyway, when that guy got fired from Netflix, I’m sure he got hired for the Dark Cabal that writes the talking points for the mass media.

    Because they definitely sent him a list of “Shit not to do, because if you did it it would just make Luigi into even more of a Modern Day Robin Hood” and he proceeded to mistake it for a “Definitely do this, because it’ll totally get people to mourn Brian Thomspon.” list

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      That seems too simplified. Could you point me to where i could read more about this story? Can’t seem to find anything about this advice from specialists

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        From the fact that the person repeats it in the same comment due to forgetting they already said that joke, we can safely assume it is made up

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        It was just a joke. The part about them hiring that guy for this spin I mean.

        Netflix really did do the “13 Reasons Why” fuck up

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    I’m gonna steel man this one and state that those officers are there to protect him more than protect others from him. That’s why school shooters have fewer officers escorting them, because who the fuck cares if somebody murders those monsters.

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    I saw this on the news and honestly wondered how many cops are required for this prisoner transfer? Because all those people are getting paid to walk a guy past cameras, and they’re probably all getting paid more than me, and there’s SO many of them

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      “Ah, yep, absolutely doing work here. Work, work, work. Dangerous work. Don’t defund us and here’s the evidence to support why.”

      • Multiple U.S. Police Departments Probably
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      Probably overtime for all of them too. These low IQ “heroes” all have boats and RVs which arent going to pay for themselves.

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        Yeah the brownshirts get perks to make them feel better than the proletariat. They rub elbows with the bourgeoisie, and occasionally with the oligarchs, making them feel like part of the in-group. Meanwhile the bourgie think of them as disgusting necessary idiots and the oligarchs think of them as filthy trained dogs.

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    They sure do love taking and posting pictures of him and then yelling at people to not give him any press. How many pics have we seen of him in custody? They dont want coverage of him silenced, they want to control that narrative. US justice system is a sad broken dishonest state of affairs.

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      If it’s politically motivated I’m pretty sure it’s terrorism.

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          I mean he wrote words on bullets (or casings, I dunno) and a manifesto…

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            American soldiers regularly paint imagery and words on the ammunition and vehicles they use to kill people. Are they terrorists too?

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                I mean I’d agree lol but I doubt this person equates Luigi and the average American soldier painting a bomb. That’s my point. Writing on a bullet case or writing a political statement doesn’t make one terrorist. It’s the violent acts and who they’re directed at any why that determine it.

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              The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.

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                sigh yes you’re the third or fourth person to make this joke. Yes I agree.

                The point is that nobody calls them terrorists for doing that. Putting words or art on weapons and ammo is considered “normal” as twisted as that is. So Luigi’s doing it does not make him a terrorist.

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            ….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.” How many white supremacists mass shootings have written manifestos and not been charged with terrorism?

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          So, I’ve heard he didn’t actually have UHC. There’s also no confirmation of a denied claim, just the fact that he had back pain. Luigi targeted Brian because UHC was the largest insurance provider in the country, not because he was personally denied a particular claim. The guy was doing long distance hiking and running months before the slaying.

          TrueAnon podcast has a great deep dive into who Luigi was and what his potential motives were.

          He’s got a background in Effective Altruism, he got into the Dark Enlightenment movement, and was involved with a number of Silicon Valley gurus with particularly extremist ideology.

          Far from simply being an unhappy customer, it’s likely he’s a real life “Radical Centrist” who got pilled on far center neoliberal ideology.

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          I’d say that yes it was definitely at least partially politically motivated, since it was just as much an attack against the system as it was against the person, but hardly terrorism since there was no intent to scare the general public.

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            He probably did intend to scare insurance company executives. I can see calling it terrorism, even if I think he should get off.

            I’ve dealt with back pain, and during the height of my battle with the insurer I absolutely would’ve been tempted to kill the fuckers given the chance.

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              insurance company executives

              Yes but they are not civilians, the are enemy combatants so it is fair game.

              Also Luigi if he did it, literally spared witness who is in fact a civilians.

              Terrorism charge will hopefully back fire.

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        The NY charge calls for a specific action taken against a government entity.

        Unless UHC is part of the government, but corporations as government is Musolini style fascism, and the US isn’t a fascist country, right?

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        Is the second guy who tried to shoot trump being charged with terrorism? Because that was politically motivated.

        If he’s not, Luigi also does not deserve the charge.

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      Not even killed, but even just made to think their plundering might have consequences.

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      Terrorism is supposed to be the dogmatic or ideologically motivated killing of civilians, often by those who are willing to die in the process. It’s terror inducing because it could seemingly happen anywhere at any time to any one, and it’s a lot easier to cause harm to others when you’re suicidal and not trying to get away with it.

      Of course, that’s not how it’s routinely used, or perhaps was ever really used by anyone except academics.

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      You know what? If they want to turn him into a martyr, I want to turn him into a saint. St. Luigi of Baltimore. In fact, I want to erect a big statue of him, something deliberately over the top and in bad taste. Like how Dante wrote his political enemies into Hell.

      Think of the classical paintings and statues of St. Michael casting Satan into Hell.

      I want to crowd fund a big bronze statue like this. Except Luigi is St. Michael and Thompson is Satan. Thompson can be holding a scroll that reads “delay deny depose.”

      I say we put a gaudy statue like this somewhere near United Healthcare’s headquarters in Minnesota. Just this classical bronze of their former CEO as the Devil himself, being thrown into literal Hell by St. Luigi of Boston. Make them drive past the damn thing every day on the way to the office.

      The dedication on the plinth can read “In Memory of St. Luigi of Boston. Tear down this monument when Americans no longer die from lack of healthcare.”

      The bastards want to make him a martyr? I say we make him a SAINT.

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        Dope illustration. Change the faces. Change the sword to a homemade silenced ghost gun and change whatever’s being scattered by Michael into pills.

        Edit- looked closer- change the chains held by Michael into him scattering pills and money.

        It’s the start of an idea. I’m no artist somebody run and do it!

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          Yeah there would be a lot of opportunity for interpretation. Realistically you would raise funds and accept proposals from artists. But I do love the over the top classical imagery.

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            We’re the people and I was hoping to inspire someone to make art for the people instead of for money. I wasn’t suggesting someone go get on making a statue!

            But I get it, being an artist is hard as fuck for many reasons, one of which is everyone wants you to work for free.

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        I want to crowd fund a big bronze statue like this. Except Luigi is St. Michael and Thompson is Satan.

        I’d pitch in for it.

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      The better one’s life is, the more scared they are to lose it.

      Enough of the general public is finally crossing the line we’ve been pushed towards for decades.

      France around and find out.

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        The problem with constantly robbing the poor is that the poor eventually run out of things to lose.

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        Yeah, the thing that’s shocked me is how my most capitalist liberal friends are in agreement he did nothing wrong. Like some of them are even agreeing when I use the phrase “class warfare”