clearly ingenue is the correct choice
or for a potential fun comment thread: is dude gendered? I grew up in a place where a lot of people called everyone dude regardless of gender. That said, when I’ve brought this up, some people get real heated about it.
the dude abides.
Dude can be gendered
and some people will think you’re just looking for an excuse to call men people who aren’t, if you say that dude is not gendered to you
we’re on the internet after all, and no one knows the real intentions of the people behind the screen
Idgaf if dude can be gendered. I use dude every time in my speech. I sometimes even use “bro” towards women. People need to get over themselves and stop assuming negative intent at everything
Do you fuck dudes?
I don’t, I’m married
My niece calls her mom “bruh”
I sometimes do that to my mom too
Same with my niece and nephews. They call everyone bruh.
Idgaf if dude can be gendered
good for you, some people really don’t want to be called that.
part of respecting someone’s identity is respecting the terms which they want and don’t want to be called by.
getting them wrong doesn’t make you an asshole, getting them wrong and not caring does.People need to get over themselves
in this context this is identical to Conservative “the new generation is too sensitive!!!” drivel.
I use “my guy” as a humorous precursor to the rest of my sentence regardless of whom I’m speaking to.
Are you okay having the tables flipped and someone calling you “sis”?
Using male language as the default may not bother you and you may have no ill intent with it, but it does have a history tied to it. A history where women were seen as less than and didn’t have equal rights. Western society still uses male language slang regardless of gender (hey guys, dude, bro, bruh) and it all stems from a history of a patriarchal society. Every time we say, “hey guys” to refer to a mixed-gender group, we perpetuate patriarchy, whether we intended to or not.
Legally and overall culturally, women are still seen as less than and we still don’t have equal rights (e.g. divorce and abortion law).
I honestly don’t think i would be bothered if someone called me sis. I think it would be funny even.
women are still seen as less than and we still don’t have equal rights (e.g. divorce
Actually women have superior rights during divorce, in the western world anyway. Try to keep the children as a man during divorce.
Actually women have superior rights during divorce, in the western world anyway. Try to keep the children as a man during divorce.
Found the incel. Please donate my prize money to any organization that supports passing the ERA.
You know I’ve said “dude” all my life and I still use it all the time in regards to everyone. If I saw that someone was genuinely offended at being called dude I wouldn’t use it again with that person, but now that I really think about it I don’t think I’ve ever heard the term in a derogatory way. Like ever. For me it’s always been a happy/inclusive word for addressing friends. My only worry for now is that saying it shows my age.
If I saw that someone was genuinely offended at being called dude I wouldn’t use it again with that person
then you’re golden, dude 🙂
Hey dude, don’t make it weird. Take a bad song and make it wetter.
Yes but he’s not looking for a woke word for “females”, so “women” doesn’t help.
No, they want to be called LA class nuclear powered attack submarine.
We’re in shit posting after all.
Happy Xmas, ya filthy animal!
Is that a US specific term? Do British women get called Astute class nuclear attack subs?
Always liked the strong silent type
You talking about females or farts?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Come on, that’s just obvious bait
‘Tarts’ implies sweetness
I think
Sir please stop licking the females
Mmmmmm’lady
In most contexts, you’d just say…”people”.
Or, if you’re actually trying to make a demographic-wide statement, like how women aren’t good at video games, you’d just say:
“IGNORE ME, I AN A SEXIST MORON.”
Basically, the meme isn’t much meant for the word choice, it’s how often incels have statements to make on half the population.
“seat-pee-ers”?
Holy shit, R*ddit denouncing misogony
Not with Jailbait mod Spez at the helm.
It’s important to note that jailbait featured girls who were intentionally posed/looked much younger than bordering 17. I think people might try to justify it/imagine it as older looking teenagers, it was not.
The mods/power users also traded CSAM, and comment sections were used for trading the real thing. There may have been official rules against it, but these communities had codes.
There was also violentacrez little empire. I don’t understand what purpose a community like “picsofdeadkids” has. I think even if you are a free speech absolutist you can question what obligation Reddit had to host such content.
Fucking excuse me?? Nvm, I probably don’t wanna know…
You remember how everyone just used to say women 10-20 years ago? I guess that’s woke now. So much for conserving.
Woman is transphobic.
Lmao nice try rightoid.
Why yes, famously trans women hate the word women so much they use it on themselves /s
But cis-women do hate trans-woman, they invented the term “Transmaxxing”
The multiple of “trans woman” is “trans women” just like with “cis women” not “trans-woman”.
There’s also no dash in either “cis women” or “trans women”, it’s not half-cis half-woman like Spider-Man, it’s just a descriptor adjective, like “cis woman” and “trans woman”.
“Cis” and “Trans” of course come from the Latin prefix “this side of” such as in Cislunar Orbit or Translunar Injection (TLI) in astrodynamics or the Cisalpine Gaul in historical geography or in Cis/Trans isomerism in Chemistry.
“Transmaxxing” is primarily used by incels that believe transition can be a way out of their inceldom, similar to gymmaxing etc., while I’ve never heard of anyone actually transitioning for such silly reasons as it’s a helluva thing to do, I doubt that this would work out in their favour.
Additionally while many cis women do hate trans women, statistically speaking they are less likely to be against trans rights than men, especially on issues like trans women using the women’s bathroom or gyms or other issues that upset some cis people like healthcare access for trans children via either hormones or puberty blockers.
Source from surveys carried out on TERF Island in 2020 and 2022:
https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/43194-where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights-1
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/30906-where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights
Let me know if you need further help.
No no no, It was coined by Cis White women to trash Trans-Women, PERIOD Stop scapegoating incels for everything & stop being a sex-obsessed creep (who wants to peek at other’s sex-life) as well, get some therapy
Well you brought up up the matter, not me, I don’t have any interest in sex lives of incels or anyone else really, I don’t think it’s wrong to discuss such subjects on the internet though, there’s really nothing to be ashamed of, I didn’t lose my virginity till 20. It’s really all okay.
Really? Most of my friends and family are super conservative and even though they disagree with the whole concept of transsexuality none of them hate trans women. Maybe you’re protecting your bigotry.
‘Extra-chromo-sapiens’.
The other ones are ‘whiny-chromo-sapiens’.
‘Arsehole’ is a good cross gender term for any humans of known or unknown sex.
Wo-men? Well, I’ve heard of men, but this sounds like a foreign language to me.
Do women wanna be called “women” tho? I don’t mean this rhetorically, but as a genuine question.
I for example, would hate to be called a “man”. It just makes me sound old. I would prefer being referred to as “male”, or anything that isn’t the word “man”. This is applicable to a lot of my friends too. Don’t women feel the same way?
… honey, there could be another reason you don’t like being called a man. 👀 Just a thought.
Nah, I identify as male. It’s just that the visual of a “man” for me is an older bearded dude with a deep voice… which I’m not…
Why would they want to be called, ‘boy’, ‘male’, etc then?
It happened to me. Being a boy never bothered me, but as I got older becoming a “man” made me dysphoric.
So I became a woman instead.
Fair enough. For me, any gendered language makes me dysphoric when I am not that gender. But of course gender is a very individual and personal thing.
Personally, I’d prefer to be called my name. To each their own I guess
I suppose I can call you my name if you really want.
Hello, my name! 👋
“Make me a sammich, jewbacca117” just doesn’t have the same ring to it
Birch, please!
With 117 I can only do chief, sorry.
Apparently not. The world would be a much better place if we all stopped making such a big deal about specific trigger words and focused on the ideas being communicated. If someone’s intent was to be an asshole then sure, get the pitchforks out, but make it clear it’s the idea that’s bad. Don’t just scapegoat the word. If they weren’t obviously trying to be a dick then calibrate your response accordingly.
To put it another way, if you’re upset about the use of a word that a scientist might use to describe something then you’re probably being overly sensitive.
You are correct but social media lives and thrives on the idea of making people overreact to things.
Genders, races, politics… It’s all literally designed for people to argue with eachother while the owners profit on their “discussions” (actual discussions are banned because sensitive snowflakes needs protection).
Listen, I’m not against using any words. I’m just for using words, that if used cause no harm, and lead to people feeling better. We are emotional beings and it is unnecessary to try to pretend that we aren’t.
If someone wants me to call them “X”, I would try to do that if it is not too out of my way, right? That’s all.
science is often biased by cultural ideas. biology, medicine, and psychology, have been used to pathologise or naturalise things along social lines. this is also reflected in the language they created.
i think it is important for this lamguage to be reevaluated, as culture and the scientific view on the world changes.
Cool, start by learning what a ‘shift’ key is.
this is a conversation about accepting ideas rather than critisizing the form…
go fuck youself asshole
Go tuck yourself in!
P.s. bed! Goodnight, riwo!
No, they are not for you to reevaluate because you hold no knowledge or expertise in these fields. Demanding for outsiders to interfere with the scientific process because of their silly little biases and mental disabilities is a deranged opinion.
Based
I’ve never encountered a man or woman that hated being called whichever was appropriate
How have you applied age to the word “man”? Unless you’re not an adult and “man” to you means being an adult?
Guy probably is between 16 and 25 and doesn’t want to be an adult lol
Not sure where you grew up culturally, but that seems like a very foreign concept to me personally. We use “boys”/“guys” and “girls” to demote young men and women. No one here would get the idea to use “male” and “female”, which to our ears are purely biological words.
Well, English is not the native language where I’m from. So perhaps it must be the cultural context for the word “man”? I mean, we don’t use the words “male-female” much outside biological contexts as well… I’ve just rarely seen anyone use the words “man/woman” for anyone our age (we’re young adults for context).
Here in Australia we use male/female all the time.
I physically cringe when I see Americans say stuff like “woman politician” instead of “female politician”. It sounds so grammatically wrong, that you legit sound like a caveman impression (ex. “Grug go car”).
Having said that, we would also never refer to women as females. There’s some grammar rules that dictate when we use either, but female is certainly the more common term.
Yeah, to my ESL ears man/woman are nouns, not adjectives, and using them as adjectives comes off as childish.
That said, “female X” can also sound clumsy, if it’s implied that a bare X is male, e.g. “politician” and “female politician”, vs male and female politician. There was a twitter account calling itself a “male programmer” which took the piss out of that trope.
I don’t see what’s wrong with calling men ‘men’. I don’t mind it at all, seeing as it’s a descriptor of what I am using the English language. What’s your problem with the word?
Not a native English speaker, so I guess I’m understanding the word wrong (judging from the other comments).
It’s just that calling someone a “man/woman” makes it seem like I’m calling them old? Like… I don’t think we associate the word “man” with youth, right? Like… Whenever someone refers to me as a man (which is quite uncommon thankfully), I cringe a little inside.
‘Man’ refers to human individuals, especially adult male humans. So the word is pretty flexible, and can technically refer to any human regardless of age.
It’s all about context. There are options that are context and age appropriate that aren’t condescending or clinically reductive.
Men’s bathroom and Women’s bathroom > male bathroom and female bathroom
“Hey, guys/gents”, “hey, girls/ladies” > “hey, men”, “hey, women”
First woman President > first female President > first girl President
“First president with vaginas,” per above. Kinda like graduating with honors.
What is the difference between “people with vaginas” and “people with vaginas of the feminine species”? And what is the “feminine species”? Is it some (unspecified?) species where every specimen is of the feminine gender?
He calls them the “female species” because the can’t (won’t) successfully breed with his own.
People with vaginas include some trans men. The idiot in OP is not totally wrong. People with vaginas are females. But what he means is (cis) women.
Also trans women can have vaginas (surgery), and it is possible to be born with a vagina but no (functioning) uterus.
The way the OP phrases it rules out trans men who have vaginas, trans women who have vaginas, and a bunch of cis women who’ve had certain pelvic traumas or cancers and therefore don’t have vaginas.
What he’s trying to say is “if you were born with a vagina and you align with it” which is actually still funny because I was born with my vagina, I like my vagina, I’ll be happily keeping it even after all my surgeries…but if this OP saw my face he would put me in the “trans man” bucket because they lack nuance around identity.
like how all cats are girls and all dogs are boys?
And I can hear it spoken with a lisp that you get when talking with a mouth full of prosthetics. Pfemales
I’ve never noticed that a ferengi head kinda looks like he’s wearing a fedora already.
They wore them so long they fused into their heads.
As a man who likes fedoras, this stereotype offends me. Sadly, it’s an accurate description most of th etime.
Usually it’s a cheap Trilby anyway.
You need to get big into two tone ska, then the fedora is socially acceptable again.
Usually the Redditors wear the fedora without knowing how to pair it correctly with the rest of their outfits, so don’t worry, if you wear a nice attire and a fedora people won’t get you confused with the guy wearing an ahegao t-shirt two sizes too small and cargo shorts.
I like “broads” mself.
