• superkret@feddit.org
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    16 days ago

    Here’s an idea:
    The sinks should be outside the bathroom.
    That way, you can wash your hands after touching the dirty door, and everyone in the hallway can see if you don’t wash your hands.

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      16 days ago

      I still don’t want to touch a handle where it’s guaranteed that people who just took a shit without washing their hands have touched, even if I’m about to wash my hands right after.

      We should just all use those foot handles. Solves pretty much everything, but why are they so rare?

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      16 days ago

      Are the doors even necessary? Just put a sharp left turn tiny hallway for privacy, blocks out everything but sound - most public bathrooms have them already

    • Elizabeth @lemm.ee
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      16 days ago

      That…makes sense to me. Not only would you need one set of sinks, you wouldn’t need to go into the shit and piss room if you just want to wash your hands.

  • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
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    17 days ago

    You shouldn’t be touching any handles upon exiting a bathroom.

    The door should be push to exit, so you can open it by pushing with your elbow.

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      17 days ago

      That would be ideal. I’ve also seen a few with weirdly discrete foot pedals. I like that idea, although the ones I’ve encountered haven’t exactly nailed the design.

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        17 days ago

        I just use a paper towel to grab the handle (if there’s not foot pedal. What’s annoying is when there’s no trash can near the door to toss the paper towel while exiting.

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          17 days ago

          Out of idle curiosity about your username, I’d like to ask.

          Dune, cryptography, or both?

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        17 days ago

        Haven’t seen that.

        You can also push a door open with a foot as you take a step forward.

        It’s trickier than using an elbow, as it involves the balancing act of putting your weight on the door, which will give way, before allowing your foot to actually land. Do it wrong or with a door that’s much lighter than you thought, and you fall over as you deliberately shift your weight off the one foot you’re still standing on :D

        I initially started doing it to push open doors while holding stuff with my hands, but now I kinda just walk into doors and open them with a foot as I do.

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          17 days ago

          We’re talking of pulling doors open. Unless I misread, I believe you’re describing a method of pushing a door outwards.

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            17 days ago

            I am.

            How would a pedal that opens a door towards you work? Unless it’s like a handle for your foot?

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              Yeah it kind of is… The ones on the bathroom doors at my work place are a little metal plate at the bottom of the door with a grip on it, and a kind of… lip? I don’t know how else to describe it. You can probably find photos if you’re that interested.

              But yeah, you kind of have to pause for a split second and brace, then you use your foot on the grip to pull the door open. After one or two times, it’s second nature now.

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        17 days ago

        My place of work installed those foot pedals around COVID time, and they work just fine.

        I’ve also seen the ones that have the pull handle, plus the little piece that extends upwards so you can use your forearm to pull the door open.

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        17 days ago

        Is that a thing?

        Feels like something door closer makes irrelevant.

        You’d think fire code would require exit always be push, because that makes evacuating smoother.

        • If they opened outward, they’d block egress in the hallway, which would have equal or more traffick than any single room connected and will enough people in the hallway, you wouldn’t be able to open the door to escape at all.

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          16 days ago

          Assuming the bathroom is in a hallway, having the door open into the hallway would cause the flight path to be narrowed which would be against (some) fire code(s).

          After all, significantly more people would want to flee through the hallway than out of a room adjacent to the hallway.

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          17 days ago

          I imagine it’s because bathrooms have no point of egress, so the ability to block the bathroom door from the outside (intentionally or not) needs to be avoided at all costs for safety reasons.

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          16 days ago

          For small spaces with limited occupancy, you can get away with opening into the room. Main exits are push, unless it opens onto a public sidewalk and not a stoop or something.

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      17 days ago

      I prefer airport style bathroom entry and exits … there is no door, just a walkway the gives privacy to the entry so that you can’t see inside from the hallway.

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      16 days ago

      I’m pretty sure there’s regulations against that, so you’re not pushing a door into a random passer by as you’re exiting the bathroom.

      The foot hook handle thing is my preferred method.

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    16 days ago

    This problem is solved by having paper towels (air dryers suck) and placing the paper towel trash bin next to the door so that you can use your hand-full of towels as a barrier between the handle and throw the towels away as you leave.

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      Or motorized door, or no door at all, this clearly isn’t a house, just have an S shaped passage. Voila, way fewer sick people on your building. It quickly pays for itself. And without reminding everyone on every day of how gross humans are.

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        it seems like a good idea to me, but my question is would it lead to more poop particles circulating more widely throughout the building than without a door? ig airports, etc seem fine with it so it must not be a big problem?

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    I would bet good money that both door handles are equally filthy, by nature of it being a school. Kids are walking talking germ incubators. We all are, but kids especially. And that’s before we even get into the kids who are intentionally malicious little bastards – I guarantee you, in some school districts, with some kids, signs like these would just be asking for an aspiring Poo-casso to smear their shit on the door handles.

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      17 days ago

      The bottom one might be dirtier, with kids specifically wanting to “soil” it because that is “so funny”. And the group that does wash their hands don’t want to touch “the dirty one”.

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        I would argue that the bottom would be dirtier, not because of kids reflex to be contrarian, but because human nature pushes people to prioritize themselves even at the cost of society. They may not wash THEIR hands, but they are not going to touch other dirty peoples handle.

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          Plus the bottom handle looks to be about the same height as my butt cheeks. If I can grab it between the cheeks instead of getting my hands dirty then I’m definitely doing that.

          (No, not really, I’m not that talented)

  • eran_morad@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Paper towel, always. No paper towels? That’s why you enter the bathroom with a napkin in your pocket.

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    17 days ago

    Someone who’s too fuckin lazy to wash their hands isn’t gonna take the time to read anything I’m public.

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        Since 2020 I haven’t touched a door handle in public. Because that’s when I realized just how backward some people are (I’d managed to avoid learning that prior). I wrap my sweatshirt around my hand to open them, now. In the summer I have paper towels in my pocket.

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    16 days ago

    This is a game theory scenario:

    1. I’m too lazy too lazy to wash my hands or don’t feel it’s necessary. Upon encountering this door I see both handles and decide to follow their instructions and open the door for unwashed hands. My hands are now unspeakably filthy as filthy people following the signs have accumulated a ton of germs on this handle. I get sick.

    2. I was my hands, follow the signs and use the washed handle. Unbeknownst to me some unwashed game theorists decided that obviously the handle for washed hands would be cleaner so they used it without actually washing their hands first. It’s now also filthy.

    3. I didn’t wash my hands, I don’t give a fuck about signs, use the one most convenient for me.

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      My hands are now unspeakably filthy as filthy people following the signs have accumulated a ton of germs on this handle. I get sick.

      Do you normally get sick when you touch a bathroom door handle? It’s not like people choose not to wash their hands because there’s a separate handle for it.

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    My germaphobia is so triggered

    🤮

    I’d have to use a paper towel all the time, to open doors, and also use hand sanitizer to clean my hands. I’m that germaphobic.

    I hate public bathrooms. HATE in bold

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    16 days ago

    I like public restroom doors that have a handle like protrusion down near the bottom for your foot

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    17 days ago

    And the reason school bathrooms can’t just have kitchen doors that you can back into to open from either direction?

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      Newer bathrooms here just don’t have doors. Just two right angles. Can’t see in from the outside, but don’t need to touch a door handle.

      It’s perfect.