The windows 11 ads worked. I installed Linux a month ago and would say the transition is done and iam really happy.
Same here.
Migrated my home studio/gaming rig to Nobara this year. The only reason I have Windows still on a drive in my PC is because the sim racing titles I enjoy (mainly iRacing) use anti-cheat and I’m also a little bit scared of bricking my expensive peripherals trying to get them working on Linux. Seems like it’s very possible, but I’m still hesitant.
That said, literally every audio peripheral I have works perfect, as well as all my VSTs. Concerning gaming, the only title in my steam library that is giving me issues is Counter Strike 2 which I’m not interested in playing right now anyway.
10/10, would recommend migrating to Nobara.
Nice to her! Which vsts do you use? Sadly i stopped doing music some years ago, but i have bitwig and some bought vsts. I wondered using them will be an issue. Like if they have an installer for windows.
I wonder how many people would notice if when upgrading from windows 10 to 11, windows is replaced by KDE themed to look like windows 11.
They will notice that their programs no longer work. .exe is not working. But my mom said: there is no longer any wait time at shutdown. She meant waiting for Windows update.
If they are smart enough to upgrade to 11 then they aren’t smart enough to switch to Linux
I doubt that people aren’t “smart enough”. I’ve seen the ads for windows 11 on my dad’s PC, they are literally full screen banners that guide you right to the upgrade. It couldn’t be more simple and obnoxious. The truth is that people simply don’t want Windows 11.
I would want Windows 11 if it wasn’t a total privacy nightmare. I have been a Windows user for a long time, but MS scared me away the moment the started requiring online accounts. Half my life is on my computer, they can fuck right off with that. Windows is generally pretty good for work computers, but I rather take my private business elsewhere
Well windowd have gon fown the shitter for work computers lately IMO.
Everything is slow, not the programs you’re running but everything taken care of by the OS. Like right click to get the context menu, why does it take real time to pup up? Launch a script, same thing. It’s like everything you do is first “analysed” before you’re “allowed” to do it. Maybe not even locally.
Also the OS shouldn’t get in the way, like you mistakenly write “python3” in the shell, suddenly the “windows shop” opens up, with the extra fuck you telling you that it hasn’t got that python3. Like wtf.
I dunno bro, I use Linux and I’m dumb af on a good day.
Windows 10 LTSC IoT is supported til the end of 2031, maybe 2032 will be the year I finally switch.
If you’re the type of person that can acquire and run LTSC, aren’t you exactly the kind of person that has the ability to switch to Linux?
They’re definitely the kind of person who’s saavy enough to make their own decisions
Being able != being willing.
I’ve tried several times over the years, I always run into too many issues before I just give up because USB aren’t recognizing things or it won’t boot or it won’t run some specific software after 2 hours of trying to fix it. My last attempt on a dev laptop in 2022 lasted the longest, Maybe it’ll be sorted out in 2032 though.
Of course, there are always small issues that can make it a little harder. When most hardware is designed first and exclusively to run Windows, there will always be issues to be resolved.
I made a mistake though. You never advocated for anyone else to take the LTSC route, and that’s that I incorrectly read out of your message. My apologies. I usually take issue with people saying that’s a solution for other people. You never advocated that. Sorry.
It has been near for the past 15 years.
Its getting nearerer!
It’s the nearestest it’s ever been !!!11
what are 15 years for immortal linux. nothing. a blink of an eye
41 version of Fedora.
While people don’t want to move onto Windows 11, I recently saw a fricking Vista on a local office supply store.
I’ve seen brand new installs of XP. An ancient process works there, so if they need a new deployment, XP it is.
No internet and minimum user interaction though
It’s really fine if they have no access to internet. They probably have their software that works fine with it, and probably won’t work on newer OSes. There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don’t recall the name though.
Funny thing is, XP still appears on Windows market share.
There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don’t recall the name though.
You’re probably remembering articles stating that Southwest Airlines still uses Windows 3.1, they were floating around the tech news sites during the CrowdStrike fiasco a few months back.
Aww, too bad it’s actually fake. It was interesting yet funny. Though me remembering that goes a couple years back. It seems it’s been around for some time, probably a meme then.
Thanks for the link by the way. ^^
I think the year of the Linux desktop is imminent, assuming you consider Chrome OS Linux. :/
Chrome OS is being replaced.
With Android no less
Filthy Windowses!
Yes, precious.
We wants it!
While I love Linux and wish more people would switch over, I know damn well most people just want to keep using Windows. The people who REALLY want Linux will find it.
Right now I’ve been offering my friends n family who don’t want Win11 two options.
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I help them get started using Linux.
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Or I show them how to get the IoT LTSC branch of Win10 that’ll still get security updates until at the latest 2032.
Most of them including the more tech savy folks just want to keep Win10 with updates, Some have opted to try Linux on a dual boot but few have stuck with it.
A few questions since you seem to know much more about this than I can probably even find from searching:
- What is “IoT”? What is “LTSC”?
- Other than update support, how is this different from my existing home laptop’s Windows 10?
- Is this free? Will there be obnoxious limitations or reminders to pay to activate?
- Why should I as a medium skill home computer user without work needs opt for this over Mint, Ubuntu, Nobara, Arch, or whatever other distro somebody would insist I use? I don’t need Office.
I’m no expert by any means but.
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The the LTSC branch of windows is the enterprise version Microsoft sell only to businesses that require less flashy feature and longer security support since most business don’t update machines frequently. IOT just seems to be the LTSC version with the longest supported update cycle.
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It’s slightly less bloated at least the Win10 version doesn’t come with pre-installed games and didn’t even have the Microsoft store installed by default. It still comes with telemetry but heard some say online they’ve had an easier time disabling it and keeping it disabled on the LTSC versions.
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It’s “free” as in a sandwich you find on the side of the road is free. Microsoft REALLY doesn’t want regular users using their business only services but people always find a way.
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It’s really only for people who currently refuse Linux but also can’t/won’t upgrade to Windows 11. I’m only suggesting it because I’d rather people at least still get security updates than use a completely unsupported OS.
Dope! I appreciate you taking the time! So it sounds like a slightly less bloated version of 10 that gets more support, but it may not be exactly legal and breezy to obtain for my personal home use.
With the possible exception of finding drivers for a device or two, it sounds like I’ll be better off just pivoting to a Linux distro mid 2025. I have been happy with SteamOS on my docked steam deck with m+kb and controller, so I’m sure I won’t be missing much by picking a popular distro that I can find troubleshooting guidance for when I hit inevitable snags.
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But which Desktop?
Steam OS?
Of course we all have our preferences and personal history with these things, but I think we can all agree that most preconfigured Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora and openSUSE ISOs with popular desktops are already more sensible and simple than the mess that is “searching for a setting in Windows”.
Whether it’s GNOME, KDE, Cinnamon, Budgie, Mate, XFCE, LXQt.
Compared to Windows, every Linux desktop is a blessing. Even that one that you personally don’t like or had a bad experience with.
We’ve been through this before.
When Windows dropped most 32 bit support, desktop Linux had a chance just like this, but it didn’t happen then either. Unless some distro becomes a perfect 1:1 replacement for Windows on all hardware, with no changes in installation procedure. (including when it’s purchased) as well as: All software must run not only perfectly, but exactly the same, with everything from installation to every moment of use exactly the same, otherwise people will use Windows unpatched, or go out and buy new hardware.
In my opinion, the year of Linux on the desktop will only come when the desktop is abandoned, and it is no longer a commonly used platform.
Yes, it’s bleak, but we’ve been down this road before. Unless a distro becomes perfect, no significant change will come.
Scoop up that hardware being discarded, install your favorite distro (because you will be supporting it) and give it away to someone to learn Linux. There will never be a mass exodus, just install, educate, and chip away 1 user at a time.
Given this explanation, I am amazed I was able to use an iPad after having an android tablet. I had to pick new apps! Relearn the settings! In a different hardware!
I’m honestly proud of myself. Thanks.
Even if there was a perfect drop in replacement it wouldn’t change anything. People bitch and moan about windows all of the time but the reason they use it is bc that’s what came with their laptop.
Reinstalling a new OS is the biggest problem, people will learn how to do things but they won’t go out of their way to do it.
You mean the year of unpatched Windows 10.
You can now pay for extended updates.
As long as the browsers keep getting patches we’re all good.
Don’t worry, they’ll drop 12 soon to make people prefer 11
Sadly almost every average user will most likely just use windows 10 past the end and won’t bother doing anything and eventually just buy new PC in few years. Also some stuff just can’t be done on Linux for work, not that it can’t be done but had problems with people not being able to open the files that were made on Linux libre office. But personally I’ll switch to Linux for safety and try to make it daily driver.
I have solved my work problem by using the online versions of MS office and SharePoint. The desktop versions are just emulated web apps these days anyway. I have only seen MS Project (which sucks anyway) and Excel having features I needed once or twice on the desktop version vs the online version.
Try OnlyOffice it’s basically indistinguishable from Microsoft Office, and available as a flatpak
Again?
