On steam linux has already passed the market share of windows… 7.
If they are smart enough to upgrade to 11 then they aren’t smart enough to switch to Linux
I dunno bro, I use Linux and I’m dumb af on a good day.
I doubt that people aren’t “smart enough”. I’ve seen the ads for windows 11 on my dad’s PC, they are literally full screen banners that guide you right to the upgrade. It couldn’t be more simple and obnoxious. The truth is that people simply don’t want Windows 11.
I would want Windows 11 if it wasn’t a total privacy nightmare. I have been a Windows user for a long time, but MS scared me away the moment the started requiring online accounts. Half my life is on my computer, they can fuck right off with that. Windows is generally pretty good for work computers, but I rather take my private business elsewhere
Well windowd have gon fown the shitter for work computers lately IMO.
Everything is slow, not the programs you’re running but everything taken care of by the OS. Like right click to get the context menu, why does it take real time to pup up? Launch a script, same thing. It’s like everything you do is first “analysed” before you’re “allowed” to do it. Maybe not even locally.
Also the OS shouldn’t get in the way, like you mistakenly write “python3” in the shell, suddenly the “windows shop” opens up, with the extra fuck you telling you that it hasn’t got that python3. Like wtf.
It has been near for the past 15 years.
what are 15 years for immortal linux. nothing. a blink of an eye
41 version of Fedora.
Its getting nearerer!
It’s the nearestest it’s ever been !!!11
While people don’t want to move onto Windows 11, I recently saw a fricking Vista on a local office supply store.
I’ve seen brand new installs of XP. An ancient process works there, so if they need a new deployment, XP it is.
No internet and minimum user interaction though
It’s really fine if they have no access to internet. They probably have their software that works fine with it, and probably won’t work on newer OSes. There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don’t recall the name though.
Funny thing is, XP still appears on Windows market share.
There is an airport that still uses Win 3.1 on some computers, don’t recall the name though.
You’re probably remembering articles stating that Southwest Airlines still uses Windows 3.1, they were floating around the tech news sites during the CrowdStrike fiasco a few months back.
Aww, too bad it’s actually fake. It was interesting yet funny. Though me remembering that goes a couple years back. It seems it’s been around for some time, probably a meme then.
Thanks for the link by the way. ^^
I think the year of the Linux desktop is imminent, assuming you consider Chrome OS Linux. :/
Chrome OS is being replaced.
With Android no less
Filthy Windowses!
Everyone migrates to Ubuntu. One finger of the monkey’s paw curls up.
ME ??
That wasn’t a good OS either…
Windows 10 LTSC IoT is supported til the end of 2031, maybe 2032 will be the year I finally switch.
If you’re the type of person that can acquire and run LTSC, aren’t you exactly the kind of person that has the ability to switch to Linux?
Being able != being willing.
I’ve tried several times over the years, I always run into too many issues before I just give up because USB aren’t recognizing things or it won’t boot or it won’t run some specific software after 2 hours of trying to fix it. My last attempt on a dev laptop in 2022 lasted the longest, Maybe it’ll be sorted out in 2032 though.
Of course, there are always small issues that can make it a little harder. When most hardware is designed first and exclusively to run Windows, there will always be issues to be resolved.
I made a mistake though. You never advocated for anyone else to take the LTSC route, and that’s that I incorrectly read out of your message. My apologies. I usually take issue with people saying that’s a solution for other people. You never advocated that. Sorry.
They’re definitely the kind of person who’s saavy enough to make their own decisions
Windows 11 is not that bad in the sense that a lot of its anti features are in Windows 10 now. With some work you can make it functional.
With that being said, Linux. By the time I spend trying to make Windows work I might as well use something that respects my freedom.
Think about this for a second,Why we use Linux on supercomputers and servers and even our phones and embedded devices,But at home we are forced to use Windows from what i heard its built on stolen code and Microsoft had so much mess ups in the past, and why do manufactures put this stolen code os from a company with alot of mess ups in the past on their Pcs.
Taking the dive on my gaming tower. Wish me luck bois
Where’s you’re going you don’t need luck, just a solid enough internet access point to search for solutions!
You don’t need luck. You’ve got us! (And the Internet to verify our claims lol)
Just triple check every step, learn how to prevent ESD, and pull that useless little sticky plastic protector off the cooler before you install it! (That one gets SO many system builders).
Youll prefer tinkering with the os rather than playing in no time ;)
Posting pictures of riced-out tiling window manager desktops is the hot new game they’re looking for.
Please Valve launch SteamOS, and I can be done with it
KDEs Project Banana OS basically sounds like Steamdecks immutable Arch with Plasma
Just install Bazzite, I think that’s basically SteamOS.
Oh huh, Bazzite’s based on Fedora Atomic. What’s the one that’s just Windows under the hood? I remember being surprised, “why would people want to install THAT on a Steam Deck”?
Unless Valve has said otherwise, I doubt SteamOS is going to be released for desktop. SteamOS is basically just Arch + kde plasma but with tweaks targeting the SteamDeck hardware
Is there really a significant difference between steamOS and using big picture mode + proton? I’ve had hardly any issues using steam on Ubuntu to play windows only games. Even Microsoft flight sim works despite trying it’s hardest to act like part of windows.
there not many easy results for “arch based distro with KDE how to [do thing]” but there are a lot of Steamdeck tutorials and a SteamOS desktop version would make it better
My yearly “I should try Linux again” cycle would probably stay permanently if Valve makes the OSPeople who just blindly copy and paste random commands without any transferable thinking shouldn’t use computers in the first place.
everyone starts somewhere, it stars mindless then they eventually learn slowly but surely with a lot of mistakes. I did. I nuked my OS several times but now know a lot more about Linux because of it.
If you apply that thinking then 9/10ths of the Linux community wouldn’t have ever started using it.
Hell 99% of the non tech people I know IRL wouldn’t be able to send a text if that line of thinking is extended to them.So they shouldn’t pay their bills, do their taxes, work?
You can’t live without using a computer anymore.They should learn working with computers then.
The year of the Linux desktop will happen when a large company decides to donate a remarkable amount of resources to the development and maintenance of a specific distro to make it user friendly and give it the feeling that someone who actually knows better than most users is taking care of important stuff in the background.
…Valve? 👀
Novell tried to do that with SuSE Linux in the early 2000’s and I’ve never forgiven them. Edit, AND did deals with Microsoft. Brr.
AND runs all windows programs right out of the box with no faffing about.
TBH: Most private users aren’t really using many programs. They are running chrome. Maybe an email client, but even that is declining. They are looking at pictures with the standard photo viewer and maybe at some PDFs and sometimes they are writing a letter and print it? Linux totally can do that.
Sure, but chances are if that’s your use case, you moved to a tablet years ago. Your photo storage is likely Facebook and Google Photos backup.
The casual people doggedly hanging onto PCs likely have some obscure software they need to run on it, either for work or personal use.
That’s not completely accurate. Remember, a lot of people want a full keyboard for typing; and an iPad with a keyboard is way more expensive than a mid-range Chromebook. Plus, a whole generation of students are growing up and entering the workforce having used nothing but ChromeOS for their entire middle school and high school careers; for them, a Chromebook feels very familiar.
Microsoft is VERY close to losing every install advantage they have. Gaming, corporate, devops, and government are the only use cases their leads are still in any way commanding in; and they’re fiddling while Valve puts the finishing touches on Steam OS, they’re about to lose their tenth consecutive K12 graduating class who will go into the workforce more familiar with ChromeOS than Windows, devops is increasingly moving toward web portals, and government…well, let’s face it, that’s not a particularly lucrative single game to win.
Google has already eaten Microsoft’s lunch and dinner. And now they’re about to split Windows’ breakfast with Valve. Unless they make some major changes, and quick, Microsoft is going to go into the 2030s less relevant than they’ve been in decades.
Ah, yes, the mythical “Year of the Linux Desktop”—that elusive utopia Linux enthusiasts have been chasing since it’s creation. Newsflash: nobody cares. The year of the Linux desktop isn’t some grand global awakening; it’s just whenever you decide to stop whining about it and install the thing. For me, it was 2002, and guess what? My computer didn’t care either. It just worked. So stop waiting for some cosmic alignment of market share and app support. The year of the Linux desktop is when you make it. Now go forth and sudo your destiny…
Can you safely remove sudo and completely switch to doas? I don’t see the point having 2 pieces of software that accomplish the same task.
@furycd001
i use doas btwNice :)
