Calling dinner supper is super Minnesotan, too.
Wait until you have family that say that daily meals are chronologically “breakfast, dinner, and supper.”
What do they call brunch, brinner?
WHERE THE FUCK IS LUNCH @_@
Are you telling me they call lunch “dinner”?!
Yup! Or more specifically, “noon dinner.”
It might be a Midwest farming thing where there are multiple snack times between chores outside. Two generations ago, my family had a quick 5 a.m. breakfast and lunch (or second breakfast) in the morning These weren’t full meals in the traditional sense. Dinner meant coming in and sitting at the table for a prepared meal. Otherwise it was just stopping in the house for a small bite and a drink.
In the afternoon, they had tea time at 3 p.m. (black tea with snack cakes or open-face sandwiches). By evening, there’d be a last big meal (supper) before going to bed.
It was super confusing for me being the first generation that didn’t grow up on the farm.
It’s kind of Bostonian too, but then it’s pronounced “suppah”.
Wait, no one else calls it that?
Others do, it’s a Midwestern thing.
Where I’m from, it’s interchangeable.
Supper is eaten from 4-6 while dinner is eaten from 5-7 in my experience. Dinner is usually a heavier meal than supper, as well.
This is why Americans aren’t allowed to make fun of British food.
Not even comparable😂 Americans look back at this and laugh or cringe, Brits still eat their old-timey slop
1987 was nearly 40 years ago…
Hey most of us stopped eating that way.
And started eating way, way worse
Maybe “worse” in the sense of health, but certainly not taste.
I don’t know why, but the word “hotdish” bothers me; I guess because I assume it refers to sort of dish/vessel rather than food.
It’s a dish served hot! As opposed to those crappy cold cuts they usually serve.
in which case, “hotdish” is a calque of “casserole” as both refer to the vessel
Sort of. When signing up to contribute something for the potluck at the local Lutheran church, you can specify if you’re bringing a hot dish (food that requires cooking) or cold dish (not cooked).
Since most people go for something easy to prepare, the hot dish just became all casseroles.
It’s etymologically indicated that it’s descendent from hot pot, which is also a method of cooking several ingredients in one pot and serving from that pot vs serving individual bowls. It’s called a hot pot because it’s served from a pot that is hot (as it’s the cooking vessel you boiled everything in). Not because the resulting soup is hot. Itself descendent from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot-au-feu (pot on fire)and similar European dishes (not the Chinese version which we usually mean when we say hot pot nowadays).
It’s a sex thing.
If you’re putting the actual serving dish into the oven, as you do with casserole, I kind of get it.
Did she eat the ‘food’ herself before putting it on this plate?
So how many times was this eaten before?
My mom used to make me add a can of mixed vegetables to my instant ramen until we agreed that I could eat them separately. So I would quickly force down the bland, mushy veggies then enjoy my ramen in its pure form.
I also feel seen in a really weird way. That Corelle, the gray hot dish, the lump of “salad”. Except the french cut beans. Mom never sprang for that. Dad did sometimes though.
I don’t know what that grey lump actually consists of, but for some reason I think it probably tastes really good. I have no basis for this belief, but I would try that. I’d probably take a too-large helping and regret it shortly thereafter.
I grew up where we did casserole instead of hotdish, but that looks like it’s rice, celery, carrot, onion, and canned cream of mushroom soup.
Just about nailed it! Missed the ground beef, and it is wild rice, a Minnesota staple.
If you’ve never tried it, I highly recommend.
Boomers across the country still have china hutches FULL of these plates. With probably more plates in storage.
I was alive in 1987 and I was never served anything resembling this. What in hell is that?
Alive in 1987… but in Minnesota or the greater midwest, USA? Alive doesn’t cut it. Did you even live life if you didn’t eat this?
I risk I lived a better life by not having eaten it.
Again, what is that?
Oh man… my mom called it “rice stuff.” It tasted like it looked.
I know its meant to represent 1987 but why canned?
I was born in '87 and I distinctly recall eating a lot of canned veggies growing up. I’m sure it’s what my mom grew up (in Newark, NJ) eating, and so it probably just passed on down when she was a young mother. I’m curious if canned veggies were just the rage at the time or if it was so because access to the fresh stuff wasn’t as available.
I grew up with frozen vegetables, my wife grew up with canned… Just one of our many incompatibilities…
fun fact, that plate has lead in it.
You can play poker with the symbols on the outside.
showing lead (Pb) from the pattern.
Damn is this your picture? Did my comment cause you to go and test for yourself? Cuz thats amazing if you did lol
When I found out they had lead last year, I went to work with the cup to confirm. This is a handheld XRF, which depends on the specific spacing of electrons in atoms to determine the identity. Not much to it other than point and shoot! (with shielding)
Modern tools are fascinating, the way you described it sounds so absurdly high tech
That is not a cheap toy. I’ve heard of them, never seen one. What is it and how much was it?
This is a Thermo handheld XRF. I wasn’t working at this place when it was purchased, but it was somewhere between $40k-$60k.
What part of the plate has lead? The plate itself or the paint?
The paint in the pattern
I’m pretty sure that’s Corelle. Do they still do this today? Because all of our dishware are fucking Corelle
Edit: Ok so they stopped putting lead since 2005 so we should be safe. But how come they only stopped in 2005
I have corelle (or corealle?) but mine are all white and don’t have the decorative print. Does that mean mine are safe from lead?
The lead helps to create a super white white.
I’m signing up for Twitter soon.
Yeah yeah, there could be layers that are not visible. I don’t fuckin know.
Not sure, regulations probably? Too worn out from existing today to Check
Wouldn’t surprise me if money > children’s brains, this is America after all
Properly fired it’s pretty tough to get any meaningful amount of lead out of a glaze on ceramics.
I’d bet they did it because of pressure from customers.
But how come they only stopped in 2005
Probably ran out of their stock of lead around that time
My aunt always drops off the fucking best, most fattening, rich meals ( “church food” ) and it is always on a plate or bowl from that company that her family has had since at least the 80’s. I will not stop eating from those dishes, I don’t even care , it’s worth it.
Who needs government regulations, amirite?
It’s not like widespread lead exposure has ever had any negative effect… Oh wait.
I still own a few of those plates… 😶
i do too, they aren’t used anymore though.
That’s not very fun
It sure will be when the lead-induced delirium kicks in.
Oh no, I ate off plates like this as a kid. That explains a lot.
You’re fine. The lead is bound in inert glass and only in the design. You would have had to chip off the design and eat it to have any problems.
Yes, that is what home made food looks like sometimes.
You’re not in a restaurant, the “cook” isn’t payed, and presentation is not high on the priorities list if you also have to do dishes, wash clothes, and organize life for the family, possibly in addition to a job.
Right? And let’s be honest, I bet that hotdish is fire
Most of that looks like it already passed through a person once.
At least once…
…the brown slop on the left could easily be a two’fer!
Actually that wild rice dish looks fine. Mirepoix, manoomin, cream of mushroom… bit of seasoning and it’s a nice hearty dish in the winter.
Food conglomerates had tried to sell a more efficient vision of the kitchen to working mothers:
Less food prep time meant more time for family and career. But it also meant more sales of processed food and the extinction of the skills required to prepare food.
The children of the seventies and eighties were among the first to experience this change toward preprepared foods.
Meals like this are exactly why I don’t ever use condensed soup in anything I make. I’ve had a lot of meals like that growing up. My family, my grandparents, my friends families… My wife still will make stuff like this sometimes. It’s all just lazy mush to me. I can’t stand it. Even my mother-in-law, who makes her own soup stock and makes bread and has her own chickens will make condensed soup and canned green bean mush. I just do not understand.