• sexy_peach@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Me: Oh no censored by the state?

    Con: uhm no a post was hidden on a social media website

    • HuntressHimbo@lemm.eeEnglish
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      2 days ago

      It’s even sadder than that honestly, it’s actually “I suspect that my post wasn’t recommended as hard as it could have been”

    • auzy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Nah. We’re not totally there yet.

      A lot of them still need to dehumanize others by saying they eat pets first, pretend they’re criminals and make them enemies by claiming they’re stealing jobs

      Over time, it will become normalised and an entire new generation of f wits will emerge

  • Zier@fedia.io
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    3 days ago

    When conservatives whine at you like this, just remind them that they are in a cult. When they get mad at you, accuse them if ‘censoring’ your free speech.

    • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 days ago

      Go further than that, tell them they’re mindless sheep, that they’re cucks to the ruling class, that they fall in line to whoever makes them feel good and don’t have an independant bone in their body. Remind them that Trump had 4 years with full control and accomplished zero of his promises, and that they’re idiots for falling for the same trick. Remind them that they’re the loud, stupid, obnoxious ones who have to be placated by the world or they throw a tantrum. Tell them when Trump dies nobody will remember the people who supported him and nobody will help his followers when they’re in trouble.

      Seriously, we have to take gloves off and find ways to hurt them on a deeply personal level. Because we should have been doing this from the start. Because it’s all they really understand.

      • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.caEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Like how we can’t call them gay anymore because gays get upset I worry about calling them cucks…but cucks like humilation so ¯\(ツ)/¯

      • travysh@lemm.eeEnglish
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        3 days ago

        I told a former schoolmate that he was acting like a snowflake and he lost his freaking mind. I expected it to bug him but holy crap.

        • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 days ago

          This is what I wish more people on the left understood, that they are GIVING us their vulnerabilities every time they open their mouth and we’re ignoring every opportunity.

          I can cite so many examples of this. Like, you can literally just call them the thing they hate and it will set them off to a degree that I think would startle most non-conservatives.

          It’s because to normal, well-adjusted, adult humans, being called a “cuck” by a stranger is just funny, it’s like being “booed” by a stranger, it’s more weird than anything personal or offensive. But the reason he’s using that word against you is because he himself is deeply, profoundly sensitive to the word and all it implies.

          They get massively triggered by specific words, and the left is always overthinking it, trying to come up with “smart” ways to fight and debate. When all you have to do is call them “weak sissies with no chin too dumb to know how voting works” and you will make their faces melt in rage, they will literally think about it all day. It doesn’t even matter if it’s accurate, and it certainly doesn’t matter if someone on “your side” thinks it’s problematic to use gendered slurs or ableism. It’s time to start twisting the knives out there.

            • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 days ago

              That would be FANTASTIC, I don’t know if you mean state house or federal, either way, imagine if every election there were more leftist/progressive candidates running than unopposed conservatives? I say this ALL THE TIME, that you can make a much bigger impact on your country by being more involved with politics, not less.

              Learn who’s running in your town, your county, your state, get to know your neighborhood, find out what people are thinking about, talking about, who they trust and not, just gather information and get practice being social and making friends. You can do so much to ensure that the people who prop up the foundations of our federal systems are people who actually represent us.

    • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
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      3 days ago

      It is a rhetorical device. Do you really need that explained or are you just employing one of your own by pretending to be obtuse?

      • babybus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Wow, so aggressive. You political crowd is insufferable regardless of your spectrum. Just a bunch of angry losers.

          • babybus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            3 days ago

            🤷‍♂️

            I guess you can only have imaginary conversations. That kinda answers my question, thanks.

            • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
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              3 days ago

              You are asserting things you have no knowledge of. You’ve never seen me having an “imaginary conversation.” You genuinely seem to be confused and dysregulated, with wild overreactions to minor or even imagined irritations. Please take care of yourself.

  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    3 days ago

    (Actual conversation)

    Freedom loving conservative™: Speak your mind its your right to say things even if it offends people

    Me: The 50k dead Palestinian civilians won’t bring back the dead Israelis from Oct 7th

    Freedom loving conservative™: HOW DARE YOU, YOU ARE A TERRORIST SYMPATHISER AND YOU DESERVE TO BE DEPORTED, THAT SORT OF SPEECH SHOULD BE BANNED

  • Kaboom@reddthat.comEnglish
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    3 days ago

    You mean stuff like “we should deport illegal immigrants” and “abortion is murder”

    Because conservatives aren’t really afraid to say them. At worst, he’s just trying to avoid another ban.

    • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 days ago

      They aren’t afraid to say “your body my choice” and “repeal the 19th” nowadays either

        • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
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          3 days ago

          “Your body my choice” has genuinely been the goal for a generation. They’ve been salivating to have RvW torn down probably your entire life. The only thing that was missing was the pithy slogan, but the sentiment existed, openly.

    • SuiXi3D@fedia.io
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      3 days ago

      It isn’t now. Go watch a science video on Facebook and read the comments. Every time I report all the idiots, and every time Meta decides not to remove the blatantly hateful, false information.

      • auzy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Had some guy calling everyone dunces he disagreed with on fb.

        Apparently, it doesn’t violate community standards

        Either does porn, or any form of harassment

        But apparently, me telling people that I was safe overnight at a hut when hiking, where and how many people isn’t ok, and that post was removed

      • pyre@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 days ago

        dude I keep forgetting Facebook exists until someone talks about it in present tense and it gives me a little surprise. it’s like someone saying they looked something up on askjeeves

      • BlemboTheThird@lemmy.caEnglish
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        3 days ago

        I don’t use Facebook but I find that on YouTube people will spout blatantly awful bigoted takes and any kind of response I make, no matter how much I try to clean up the language, will get shadow deleted

      • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comEnglish
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        3 days ago

        I don’t have a facebook account for that and a myriad of other reasons. But I agree I am lagging culturally because of it. I’m sorry that I get that way on here when I get all wound up.

        • SuiXi3D@fedia.io
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          3 days ago

          No, you’re fine, I was trying to illustrate that it’s already, and has been happening for quite some time. I wouldn’t be on Facebook at all if it weren’t for my family. I absolutely detest what sort of drivel is allowed to be posted there.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Those are actually Libertarian views posing as Conservative views because Conservatism has been taken over by billionaire libertarian think tanks, looking to lower their taxes.

    • ProgrammingSocks@pawb.socialEnglish
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      3 days ago

      This is a no true Scotsman fallacy. The simple truth is that conservatism always served fascists, it’s just more overt now.

      • DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 days ago

        I didn’t say anything about fascism, that’s a whole different topic entirely. So weird that’s you’ve brought a third term in whilst claiming I was playing on the no true scottsman fallacy (which I don’t believe is the case).

        Conservativism is about the family unit, the church/traditional culture, and serving your community and nation. Conserving tradition in the name and style of your ancestors (so Confusionism is fairly conservative for instance, as it focuses on ancestors worship and supporting your parents).

        Libertarianism is about reducing government, avoiding taxes, and maximizing individual “freedoms”.

        They’re simply two different ideologies. Has nothing to do with a not true scottsman fallacy. Has to do with the fact they’re obviously not overlapping sets of values, and in fact oppose each other greatly and often.

        However American have been tricked into thinking they’re compatible.

        Your comments and those supporting it are proof of this. You’ve been had by billionaire think tanks and mega churches. Brainwashed into seeing them as the same ideology when they’re actually in opposition.

        Foolish American. Brainwashed people are bound to vote against their own interests. Lambs to the slaughter.

        • ProgrammingSocks@pawb.socialEnglish
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          2 days ago

          Remember when Elon claimed to be a libertarian before literally joining the establishment Republicans? Libertarianism isn’t real. “Libertarians” bend the knee to conservatives and fascists so quickly it doesn’t matter what the ideology supposedly says. It doesn’t matter that you didn’t “say” anything about fascism. If you can’t connect these two things, that is simply a failure in critical thinking.

          • DarkCloud@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 days ago

            I’m the one saying Libertarianism has been sold to Americans under the brand of Conservatism.

            … and it’s important to point out (particularly to young people) that these two philosophies don’t mesh.

            You’re free to say “No! All you conservative voters are actually fascists and you’re evil and stupid and need to stay away from everyone!” - and continue to see whether that shaming moralism of young men starts winning them over. You’re free to persist with declaring everything right wing fascist.

            After the last election some might suggest it’s not winning any votes.

      • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
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        3 days ago

        It’s not the Scotsman fallacy. You don’t even address the arguments and try to show how it is.

      • Kintarian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 days ago

        Let’s see, the conservative Christian right just voted in a nasacistic tyrant twice. They want to declare America as a Christian country. They want to abolish the separation of church and state. They want to teach creationism in schools. They want LGBT to register as sex offenders. They want to remove books from schools and libraries they don’t like. They want to immediately execute every death row inmate. I’m not sure why I’m pissed at conservatives.