Seriously though, don’t do violence.
correlation is not causation.
repeat the experiment.
Hmmmm… I wonder what would cause pharmaceutical prices mysteriously drop?
Without 25 observations at least we cannot draw conclusions
Depends on your dataset, confidence, and margin of error.
Assuming that 95% of billionaires will act similarly and 750-ish total billionaires in the US, if you want to have 99% confidence and 1% margin of error, you’ll need a minimum sample size of around 600.
We really should be thorough. For science.
Usually I would nit pick the hypothesis you want to confirm and the math you used, but for some reason 600 sounds right.
Violence is neutral.
Human nature is bad.
When someone is violent to someone else and doesn’t need to be violent, they are bad.
When someone unintentionally wrongs someone, you try to settle the situation without violence in a way that is fair to both parties.
When they don’t settle or they keep wronging people, you need to escalate.
When the person wronging the people is in a place of money and power, and you cannot escalate, there should be consequences.
I’m not a big fan of vigilantism, If the world ran that way, we’d have a lot of innocent deaths. But if the government and laws don’t protect the people, stuff like this happens, or at least it logically should. If anything, I’m kind of shocked this isn’t more commonplace.
violence is neutral
How so?
It was here before we got here, and good and bad are both words of human origin.
The one hand-wringer downvoting you didn’t see the video of the pregnant zebra watching its unborn fetus ripped from her uterus and eaten, in front of her terrified, defeated, anguished eyes. The hyenas were just surviving, violence wasn’t taking place.
There’s always one in a crowd.
Killing a rapist mid-act is not wrong. Killing an innocent person because they have the misfortune of being insured by your company is wrong.
I think what theyre getting at, is that in the assailant’s mind it’s justified, or they wouldn’t have done it.
I mean history is ambiguous about it, but it usually tends to be more bad than good. Usually.
Depends on how far back you go. We’re smart because we’re predators.
It’s self-defence.
I made a large collection of screenshots from Facebook of people who had their claims denied by United Healthcare today if you want to really see violence.
Damn, I’ve heard that healthcare sucks in the USA but I didn’t expect it to be that bad. This is just heartbreaking.
If anything, this assassination made people like me from countries with functioning healthcare systems more aware of how it could’ve been in the bad timeline.
I tried to find a similar collection from other health care robber companies, but they didn’t seem to be as brutal as this.
Only in Connecticut
I certainly agree with that, but that agreement is not a call to violence, and definitely not an incitement of violence…from a legal perspective.
Legal smeagol. When the legal system (jury box) fails us, time to move on to the next box.
I don’t disagree, but I don’t want to get on the wrong side of any of the ToS. Or wind up on a government watch list.
You’re not even willing to risk THAT to help fight against evil?
I mean… I’m not willing to risk that for a meme post.
What do you think that the difference is between a meme post and public conversation?
I’m saying that framing a meme post as the fight against evil is a bit much.
There’s a public, digital record of one and a very slim chance (for most people) that anyone who would care is listening to the other.
The government stopped using watch lists. It’s easier just to watch everyone.
One of the things I remember Snowden saying about the NSA’s data collection is, something to the effect of, “It doesn’t even make sense. If you’re looking for a needle in a haystack, the answer isn’t more hay.” I was still outraged by the government’s collection of my meta data, but it did make me feel a little better about their ability weaponize that data competently.
It’s not so much the excess hay their collecting, it’s the giant electromagnetic they’re building.
When you crush folks into the ground for decades, ensure there’s no legal recourse, and bleed them for every dollar until the money runs red. It’s hardly a surprising outcome.
Here’s the song that’s been playing in my head last couple days, for no related reason: https://youtu.be/o9mJ82x_l-E
I prefer this one for obvious reasons.
Oh damn, I don’t think I’ve heard that one in since I was in middle school.
I have a soft spot for what my friend calls, “divorced dad rock.”
To me this is, “rock my edgy older sister listened to.” Gave me a nice nostalgia hit too.
Here’s the song I’ve been thinking about
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm1nCYOZB-s&t=175s&pp=2AGvAZACAQ%3D%3D
Not sure if you know the reason for the song, but here is the info behind it… the actual footage was brutal as well.
A Song Inspired by an Infamous Suicide
Patrick found the lyrical inspiration for “Hey Man Nice Shot” from the January 1987 suicide of Pennsylvania State Treasurer R. Budd Dwyer. It occurred on the day Dwyer was to be sentenced for 11 counts of bribery for which he had faced up to 55 years in prison and a $305,000 fine, according to an Associated Press article from the time. No money was said to have exchanged hands. The public official spent 20 minutes on live television proclaiming his innocence, then shot himself to death. The incident shocked family, friends, and political associates, not to mention the viewing audience.
I saw that video when I was in middle school and found out later in my teens that song was about that headshot. It’s a good song.
Wasn’t that the guy who was later found to be innocent? He tried to fight the charges, got convicted, killed himself, and THEN they figured out he really didn’t do it?
Except when it isn’t.
Well, I definitely can’t agree with that…in writing.
I don’t know why you choose the title you used. I would’ve upvoted this post but i couldn’t because of the title. Violence absolutely is the right course of action in certain circumstances. Violence should never be used first, but once all non-violent means have been tried and failed to correct a grave injustice, then violence becomes the appropriate action for any moral person.
If you do nothing while you watch a murderer kill an innocent person, then a part of the guilt falls on your hands. As the saying goes “the only thing necessary for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing.”
I’m not saying to track down do what this guy did to huge multi-hundred-billion dollar CEOs, but it’s hard to say that it doesn’t work.
Yeah, that’s about what I’m getting at.
If it works it works. Humans have been using as an effective way to accomplish things for millennia.
The current capitalism overlords may not be happy when it’s used the other way around to what they are used to.
Humans? You mean every living thing that ever existed?
“Violence is a precipitation of two sides unwilling to compromise.”
- Sun Tzu The Art of War
At best, this will cause insurance companies to spend more on PR, and maybe make some small token changes they can use as headlines.
violence is bad
It is bad if used as the first approach.
It is fine when used in self defense or when all peaceful approaches have been exhausted in response to oppression and other malicious actions. It does matter when and why it is used.
Agreed. This happened because both parties are bought and paid for by big corpo. Our vote is only on how to address some of the social issue symptoms, if at all, of our crony capitalist economy, and only if they don’t meaningfully effect corpo profits.
Example “please leftwing Obama, save us from this for profit healthcare hell!” proceeds to further enshrine for profit insurer leeches in a plan made from the heritage foundation because big corpo demand line go up.
The people don’t get a vote on the crony capitalist economy.
When we wish to protest, we’re now sent to designated protest zones out of the eyelines and profit operations of those we protest, making such “protests” as effective as masturbation in creating change.
This is happening because they have made us this desperate,and taken away/castrated our non-violent options. Some are apparently finally realizing that our votes and our protest have been manipulated by the capitalists that know they’re doing us harm into still technically existing, but no longer mattering.
Gotta hand it to them, it’s far more insidious than overt slavery with chains.
It goes to show how morally bankrupt these people are that it takes the fear of death being out into them to get them to do something even remotely good/ethical.
It also unfortunately proves, once more, that violence can absolutely be the solution.
This is HORRIBLE! Now CEOS might Fear for their LIVES and in Turn make Decisions that HELP US! That’s SICK! We should let them KILL US without Consequence!
