So I’ve been barely active on Lemmy for a litany of reasons but I am active elsewhere. Specifically, Bluesky. I run an account that I’ve posted here a couple times called the Starfleet Press Office where I post lil tweets that take place kinda within the Star Trek universe, breaking the fourth wall to an extent. The idea is that the Department of Temporal Investigations owed a favor to the team in charge of the S.P.O so he got a temporal link to Bsky set up. For fun. So random tweets get posted that are commenting on current episodes (A few were made for different Lower Decks episodes as they were posted), other ones about just random events in the universe that I think would be funny (sometimes lining up with holidays, like some Santa teleportation nonsense), and others that take real world events and parody them in the Star Trek universe, like the ferengi CEO of a health insurance conglomerate getting killed.
I’m clearly doing something right because @RealGulDukat, the guy who posts Trump tweets as if Dukat said them, follows only 13 people on Bsky and one of them is me. So whatever nonsense I keep posting I’m just gonna stick with. Drop by and say hi!
Okay, but can we talk about how Star Trek was always “woke”?
Like they didn’t become woke. They always presented the progressive side as utopian.
Every time I see this, I’m reminded of the weird right wing star trek subreddit called
r/star_trekwhere people disagreed with this. It was wild that they “watched” the same shows where it literally has every single of these characters and went “nah I disagree”Friendly reminder that /r/Star_Trek was run by the same people who own/run the lemmy instance, Startrek.website.
Which explains… a lot.
The Boys got too woke in later seasons. Black Dr. Who is just forced DEI politics. Heisenberg is actually an american icon for supporting his family and working two jobs while having cancer. Real Jedis would vote Trump for peace in the galaxy.
Deep Space Nine wasn’t woke because I hadn’t been radicalised when it was produced. Your move, snowflake
The only people who say this shit are people who saw a thirty-second segment on Fox News. Star Trek and Star Wars have been woke for as long as they’ve existed, and that’s partly why they’re so fantastic.
Sisko was obviously space Moses, not space Jesus.
Woke is the new sheeple. In that…anyone who says is unironically is you know they’re an absolute moron parroting the latest talking points they were told to be outraged at.
Who is communist himbo?
I feel like I’ve asked that before and have already forgot… 🤔
Rom, apparently. I had to do some searching to figure it out.
Worf?
Has to be.
I’m guessing it’s a reference to his vacation to Risa. Staging a coup using a weather machine is a vacation for worf tho so everyone got what they wanted in that episode
It’s clearly Rom.
Edit: I have no original thoughts…
I can’t figure that out either haha
Fine! I will sign up for Blue sky! I don’t want to, but if it’s got 100% more Stamets Flavor then I’ll do what I need to do!
I don’t see how the Trill experience is like the trans experience in anything but the most superficial way. Unless we’re saying that a trans person’s new identity is something that was external and has since been imposed and internalized.
But that doesn’t get it right either. Every trans person I’ve met has rejected their previous identity and adopted a new one, but Trill incorporate their old identity into the new, and form a kind of synthesis.
The last part I find incongruous is that trans people work so hard to align their physical presentation with their internal experience so that others’ treatment of them reflects their self-perception but Trill defy this. Jadzia Dax presents very strongly as fem but behaves very outwardly as masc. This is a character ultimately designed to satisfy the male gaze and the male desire for a “drinking buddy”; i.e. the “action girl” trope.
Jadzia Dax presents very strongly as fem but behaves very outwardly as masc.
But the bit that matters is that characters we’re meant to admire chose to accept Dax as they presented at any given time, without giving them needless crap for it.
I recall most LGBT characters on TV at the time had to accept a studio mandated minimum quota of jokes at their expense.
Dax was refreshingly different, in being allowed to present as LGBT and as a heartthrob love interest.
(And bonus kudos to Garak the Simple Taylor for also being an LGBT heart-throb love interest when that certainly wasn’t allowed by the studios.)
This is a character ultimately designed to satisfy the male gaze and the male desire for a “drinking buddy”; i.e. the “action girl” trope.
I mean, yeah. You’re very correct that Dax is about male gaze much more than Trans representation.
But this sign I had made special for Star Trek applies once again:
Empathy through horniness still technically counts as progress.
Lol.
I am trans. Your take is not accurate. There is literally no way to transition and at the same time, forget/abandon who you are as a person; skills, core values, ethics, hobbies, likes, dislikes, etc, etc. They persist.
What changes is what a person is “allowed” to like/feel/express.
Conservatives: Black Jesus? Jesus was from the middle east … Bisexual Terrorist? rebels against tyranny are not identified by sexuality … Trans Worm? it’s just another alien … Dr Twink and his fashion Lizard boyfriend? what happens in another star system stays in another star system … traumatized goo? just keep it in a jar … communist himbo? we defeated communism in the 20th century … PRO-UNION IRISHMAN!!!
PRO-UNION IRISHMAN!!! But O’Brien must suffer!!!
The plight of union men throughout the ages, really.
Woke was never the problem.
The virtue signalling to cover up terrible writing, acting and directing, is. DS9 was awesome, just like TNG. Any star trek after 2000 has just been anything but good, anything but star trek.
The Orville is a great example of how to upgrade star trek for modern times, it was the star trek we never got
Strange New Worlds is good, at least S1 (haven’t watched S2 yet)
The Orville is painfully derivative. It’s not the Star Trek show we never got, it’s reheated leftovers of the Star Trek show we already had thirty years ago.
NuTrek has certainly had its writing failures (looking in Picard’s direction), but at least it generally tried to let the franchise evolve.
And none of those failures had anything to do with “virtue signalling”. They’ve mostly been the result of committing to a season long arc with no meaningful plan and fumbling the ball halfway to the finish line.
The Orville gave us exactly what everyone wanted: the warmth of a star trek show, the actual thoughts in morals and ethics, actual woke materials to make you think about.
Nu trek gave us “pew pew”, shitty CGI, and abhorrent writing
Woke, you say? Dare I remind people what racial tensions were like when this episode came out in (checks notes) 1968?
Why were people outraged? That’s clearly an alien woman and not a black woman that Kirk has his tongue jammed down the throat of. /s
Yes. And all those cat girls are really 3000 years old.
The bad guys were also telekinetically forcing them to do it.
Thank you for everything Stamets
Space Jesus? In my prophets?
It’s the Union that’s too far for them.
