• dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    They all thought the foreign company paid the tariff.

    This is probably what Trump thinks, too. I can easily believe he is that stupid.

    I’m also wondering just what the fuck Trump and co. are going to do with all the money obtained from these tariffs. Just, like, spend it all on hookers and blow or what? Remember how you all believed this was the party of “low taxes?” Yeah, guess what a tariff is, fuckers.

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      1 month ago

      Don’t forget who paid for the wall … I mean Mexico totally was writing the checks…fucking idiots.

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      1 month ago

      This is probably what Trump thinks, too.

      100%. If he isn’t reading it from a script that someone else wrote, he knows nothing about the topics he’s talking about.

      He even boasts about “knowing more than anyone about XYZ”, yet, it can’t expand on the subject, can’t answer questions about it, is vague, and reminds me of how really bad LLMs answer questions.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I found some additional articles on what he said about this, and he did indeed flat out say he expects the “other countries” to pay the tariffs. For instance, this.

        A sweeping tariff policy will kill two birds with one stone, Trump says: It could find a new source of revenue for the U.S. government, which could offset losses from lowering or eliminating certain forms of income tax, while extracting money from rival governments.

        That’s not how tariffs have worked at any point in history.

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          Yup. He does a great job “selling” ideas that simply aren’t grounded in reality.

          Like that wall that Mexico was going to pay for. What an idiot. Did his base think the United States would just send Mexico a bill for work completed and expect them to pay it? You couldn’t make this buffoonery up!

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            I had a boss like this. Had all these million dollar ideas but no capacity to consider that someone else had the same idea and it either made no damn sense or it had already been done and people went to jail for it. Motherfuckers dream up grifts halfway and think everyone else is an idiot or sucker for not acting on the “golden opportunity”.

          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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            And then people buy these unrealistic ideas and when they get harmed by reality, they somehow blame ‘leftists’, ‘progressives’, ‘demon rats’, ‘Obama’ or any other bogeyman for it.

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      When it’s returned to the feds it’s just destroyed. Federal return is just the return of debt, it’s not more money.

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    To be honest, this kind of feels to me like the boss was just looking for an excuse to not have to pay workers.

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      I mean, he got it and it’s actually a good one. Uncertain finances tend to cut into bonuses of all types.

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    Ha ha ha!

    This is absolutely delicious!

    I know I’m going to be fucked over hard but it’s still heartwarming to see those adults who put is here also get fucked even harder!

  • ATDA@lemmy.world
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    Just read estimates his tariffs would cost the average household 7600 annually. I told my folks and they didn’t understand why I thought it was funny. I told them they wanted this.

    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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      This is definitely fake, but […] I choose to believe it’s real

      2024 election in a nutshell

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    I don’t know if this post is true or not. However, a lot of people don’t know history, civics, & economics. (This is the result of the Reagan & Bushes dismantling of the education system.) I’ve told a lot of people to look up the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 and the impact it had on our and the global economy. Tariffs will start a trade war. That’s what happened to our farmers the last time Trump was in office. He ended up having to bail out farmers which cost more than the tariff brought into the government. The Chinese simply bought their soy beans from other countries instead of paying for ours. There were a lot of farmers that lost their farms then.

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      I have been told many times to feel bad for those farmers, that they aren’t idiots, etc.

      I thought I ran of fucks for them but a few more just flew out like butterflies from a dusty chest.

      I hope ever single one that put up those massive Trump signs loses their family farms to big corporations.

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        We need fewer corporate farms, which are dirty as fuck now let alone after they gut the USDA. I hope that they lose their family farm to two gay dudes from Vermont who got really into organic gardening and decided to cash in their b&b for corgis to start growing high quality produce right here in America’s heartland.

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      I’m sure the corporate farmers were happy to buy up that land and cut the trump admin a nice check for the convenience.

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        OMFG!!! LMFAO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I totally forgot about that. Great memory and response!!! Line of the day!

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    Guise, I’m struggling. Part of me says…let them all burn for their “fuck around and find out”.

    But I know that isn’t completely right. I just, am, so, angry (and sad).

    Will probably choose the let them burn route.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    I posted a meme last week before the election about a lot of my fellow Americans being depressingly ignorant and a bunch of people got pissed off about it.

    I’m just saying…

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      Yeah, a lot has been said about why the ‘Democrats’ failed; sure they were/are imperfect.

      Where are the articles bemoaning our stupid and/or mean citizens who have no curiosity and think being obstinate will work like a time machine? I’m frustrated to hell with apathy of my countrymen.

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        “Democrats” is too vague to be meaningful in this discussion. I do put a lot of blame on the DNC organization for deenergizing their base, but also the working class for not understanding basic economics and being taken by a carpet bagger.

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        And the huge shift right by male GenZ people. Reading posts by them specifically today: they felt marginalized by democrats and ignored. They felt like Maga cared about them, and they could belong in the Republican party. And some of them simply wanted revenge and to feel powerful.

        Now this isn’t everyone, but I gotta say:

        WTF are you doing thinking about feelings? And fitting in? Look at the damn effects your choice is going to make based on “feelings”. That group is going to lose consumer protection, worker protection and safety, medical coverage, relief on college tuition, housing subsidies, debt relief, small business loans. What they gain is higher prices, worse infrastructure, and possibly the nastiest thing of al:l the direct path of their income going to the wealthiest people and perpetuating generational wealth for the very few.

        Because they wanted to “feel” like they were seen and heard as men. You got played!

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    So they immediately left that meeting and started talking about how to unionize, right?

    Right?

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      Unfortunately a union after the fact does nothing to help the workers.

      Unions are great for ensuring that the profit from their labour; is fairly distributed.

      If the company is unprofitable; forming a union to squeeze blood from a stone is not helpful. It will just hasten the demise. These tariffs, as others have pointed out are probably making their fixed term contracts into money losers…We don’t have all the data, but it is quite likely.

      And from a personal point of view, smaller companies tend to care more than big ones…I’ve worked in both. Being 1 of 5 is great, being 1 of 15,000 not so much.

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      Not sure what a union would have done in this case. The problem is near term cost of inputs vs long term contracts with fixed revenue.

      I’m not saying it would be bad for this to kick them into forming a union, only that it wouldn’t have solved this problem unless the union had an education campaign to explain why excessive tariffs are bad.

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        Or I’d imagine, if the bonuses were part of the hypothetical collective bargaining agreement’s verbage, as an entitlement.

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          Yup, that’s reasonable too.

          But like, that makes it a lumpy salary and not a bonus if it’s an entitlement without a reasonable low floor. Are there union contracts that actually dictate it like that?

          Setting aside for a moment the understandable and reasonable belief that owners will try to fuck labor, a mandated cost divorced from the broader company financial performance metrics, sounds like a way to ensure bankruptcy. Even without this tariff nonsense there are real and honest cases where costs can skyrocket and a company has to adjust and that really does can little to nothing for the bonus pool (or other labor cost) without incurring a lot of financial risk.

          Again, not an argument against unions, 100% support organized labor, but at some point math is math.

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            Yes and, labor unions have foregone bonuses in moments like that. The working class has had to pry those bonuses back.

            I don’t think contracts are as rigid as most people would imagine. Especially if the rank and file vote not to collect on the bonus.

            The math do be mathing though.

  • nicgentile@lemmy.world
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    Does anyone know if we are paying tariffs for face eating leopards? I can foresee high demand.

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      Trump voter “Nuh, uh. My taxes are slightly lower and if it weren’t for all this Biden inflation I would be able to afford things!”

  • SeattleRain@lemmy.world
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    Those tariffs are going to be a bitch. On the bright side, collecting aluminum cans is going to be way more lucrative.