World War III was the last of Earth’s three world wars, lasting from approximately 2026 to 2053.
It resulted in the deaths of some 30% of the Human population, at least six hundred million people, and the extinction of six hundred thousand species of animals and plants. By the end, most of the major cities had been destroyed and there were few governments left.
In the grand scheme of things… Is 600,000 species of flora and fauna a big number or a small number? IRL, I mean. Obviously in the fiction it’s a very small number.
TL.DR, there are ~2 million known species of animals. There are probably more of plants, and apparently nobody cares about fungus or other kingdoms of life. So, it’s a big dent, but the number looks even small in a worst-case scenario WW3.
I remember there being around 30,000 animal species threatened by extinction, but I have no idea when or from where I heard that.
Hold the phone. There were only something like 2,000,000,000 humans in the Star Trek Universe when WWII kicked off? Man they underestimated population growth.
“The road to enlightenment is paved with authenticity, not imitation.” - Alen Cohen
We might still have to go through something akin to the Bell Riots, but if we could just skip over the WWIII bit and the Eugenics Wars while still reaching a “no money, socialist utopia”, then I think I can live with it.
to start we almost 100% have to all be in alignment for the most part so that means a one world government for and by the people which cannot be upended by bad actors.
How to get people to work together you might ask?
I think it is through a system like this consensus engine where people can find common ground in their discussion.
from that link, "Define goals and work towards them.
The system can be used to lay out a plan. This plan can be made by those in a certain group or
community. The group can explain their reasons for doing making the plan. The goal itself and
methods of achieving it can be decided on by the users. Detailed lists of steps including sub-steps as
far down as needed, coupled with potential ways for derailment of plan, and ways to deal with those
possibilities are made and voted on. Input can be gathered from everyone or only the town/club/group
hosting the idea and can result in a robust and long lasting plan set into action. "
I genuinely like the idea of the consensus engine but it kind of glosses over how we determine what is a fact and how we determine who is an expert and why.
All one has to do is look at the last 10 years of increased skepticism towards experts and expert fields yo see that there is simply no simple way to validate these people and opinions (or factual claims!) in a way that will make people trust them. In fact formal systems seem to be under harsh scrutiny than your simple Joe Blow on YouTube these days.
“if we’re lucky”
In the grand scheme of things… Is 600,000 species of flora and fauna a big number or a small number? IRL, I mean. Obviously in the fiction it’s a very small number.
Is anyone else reminded of Bill Nye, by that particular Doctor? Other than the accent obviously.
https://ourworldindata.org/how-many-species-are-there
TL.DR, there are ~2 million known species of animals. There are probably more of plants, and apparently nobody cares about fungus or other kingdoms of life. So, it’s a big dent, but the number looks even small in a worst-case scenario WW3.
I remember there being around 30,000 animal species threatened by extinction, but I have no idea when or from where I heard that.
Oof! Only around 2 million? I had assumed it was in the billions range. Yeah, 600k is pretty significant. 😨
Hold the phone. There were only something like 2,000,000,000 humans in the Star Trek Universe when WWII kicked off? Man they underestimated population growth.
They had the Eugenics Wars in the 90s which led to a bunch of deaths.
That’s not really all that far fetched. ☹️
“The road to enlightenment is paved with authenticity, not imitation.” - Alen Cohen
We might still have to go through something akin to the Bell Riots, but if we could just skip over the WWIII bit and the Eugenics Wars while still reaching a “no money, socialist utopia”, then I think I can live with it.
Sisko is still my favorite ST captain.
How to get earth into a post-scarcity world?
to start we almost 100% have to all be in alignment for the most part so that means a one world government for and by the people which cannot be upended by bad actors.
How to get people to work together you might ask?
I think it is through a system like this consensus engine where people can find common ground in their discussion.
from that link, "Define goals and work towards them.
The system can be used to lay out a plan. This plan can be made by those in a certain group or community. The group can explain their reasons for doing making the plan. The goal itself and methods of achieving it can be decided on by the users. Detailed lists of steps including sub-steps as far down as needed, coupled with potential ways for derailment of plan, and ways to deal with those possibilities are made and voted on. Input can be gathered from everyone or only the town/club/group hosting the idea and can result in a robust and long lasting plan set into action. "
I genuinely like the idea of the consensus engine but it kind of glosses over how we determine what is a fact and how we determine who is an expert and why.
All one has to do is look at the last 10 years of increased skepticism towards experts and expert fields yo see that there is simply no simple way to validate these people and opinions (or factual claims!) in a way that will make people trust them. In fact formal systems seem to be under harsh scrutiny than your simple Joe Blow on YouTube these days.
Sounds like Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War.
A piece of that is managing systems instead of people, which means an absolute separation of church and state.
Marry who you want. Age of legal consent means body autonomy. And so on.
Freedom of and from religion at the same time, no exceptions.
When Sisko finally embraced the Hawk inside him, i knew shit was about to hit the fan. And hell, they didn’t disappoint.
Except weirdly we know from canon that San Francisco, and Paris came out of it more or less unscathed, which seems unlikely.
Maybe they didn’t.
Maybe they just restored the cities after the war.
Who knows? It’s the future, man.
There are some countermeasures to ICBMs, but they’re not foolproof.