• Taleya@aussie.zone
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    13 days ago

    $10 says the dipshit in question did a frantic google, saw ‘ulysses’ and went james joyce.

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      Probably trending because of the musical tbh , it’s been pretty popular in some circles.

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        13 days ago

        It could be an amazing movie if they follow the story and make it a multi part series… but also those hollywood assholes cant help but fucking up stories that tell themselves so I expect it to be shit.

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          Yeah, something like this deserves a several season show with one hour episodes. At least 10 episodes per season.

          Remember when some assholes made The Dark Tower (eight novels, 4250 pages) into an hour and a half movie? I sure wish I didn’t. Great casting too. Such a waste.

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    13 days ago

    The problem is, I have this big bag of stones in my glass house, and I want to throw them at the UK for being dumb, but if I do, I also have to admit the US education system is trash.

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      I’ll throw that stone for you

      The British education system is almost as bad as the American education system. The biggest difference between our cultures is that a lot of Americans are willing to point out how incredibly racist our country is

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        It’s not just slavery minimization. A lot of far right Americans have taken over local school boards to ban books that talk about gay people existing or the fact that sex is something that happens, among other nefarious purposes. And a religious organization in Texas writes pretty much all the textbooks used across the country. It can’t be this bad in the UK can it?

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        So much broken glass, was it worth it? Now I have to go get the broom.

        The amazing part is you somehow broke France and the Netherland’s glass too? Just so much to clean up.

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      I can do both. I’m ot gonna let some backwater pit like the UK insult my home, especially since the UK is essentially completely dependent on the US at this point.

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    instead we studied useful things

    Have you ever seen any British television quiz game shows? The amount of world geography and history most contestants seem to know is abismal, makes me scratch my head and seriously wonder what many of these people are doing there, in a game show about knowledge. What are they even doing there, in the delusion that they have a shot.

    “What is the capital of Denmark?”
    “Erm… pass.”

    This person’s comment is just another drop in the bucket in the sorry state of things.

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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      In my geography class, we were taught about how weather and climate happens. Geography has as much influence on it as physics. So whenever someone points out why it is so cold if there is global warming, I teach them that warming temperatures fuels warm high pressure areas, which pushes out colder low pressure area. For example, if the American East Coast is experiencing extremely cold temperatures, the other side of the Atlantic would be experiencing warmer but rainy intense storms because the high pressure area is pushing the colder low pressure area to the US East Coast. As you can see, extreme weathers will only get worse because of climate change as the world gets warmer.

      But I think the most practical everyday geography knowledge for people is knowing why the taste of tap water sucks. Just know that areas with limestone bedrocks have water that taste better. Limestone is full of calcium and other minerals, and filters groundwater quite well unlike in areas that have igneous rocks such as basalt or granite.

      I don’t want to sound like I’m pontificating but I believe it’s important to have as much general knowledge as possible because you never know when those knowledge might have practical utility one day. You don’t have to memorise all the knowledge you learn, but it’s good if you can keep them at the back of your mind in case they are needed one day. But on the one hand, yeah there are more immediate practical concerns that requires more specific knowledge. Knowing about Jupiter will not fix a pipe leak in your kitchen. It’s about having the balance and knowing when to use seemingly useless knowledge, and what knowledge you need to use for more practical cases. Overall though, it’s better to have broad knowledge as it makes you less impervious to misinformation.

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        Well I learned about the atmosphere and ozone in science and chemistry classes and I learned math in Physics, and Meteorology should be a completely distinct subject from just naming municipal districts on a map.

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          geography also teaches you how the weather affects the earth via erosion, which lets you predict if it’s a good idea to build a house somewhere (not really relevant in 2034 though)

          also, you’re confusing geography with topography

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      yes it is. you learn how the world works. what gets exported from where. where the refugees come from and to, and why. what conflicts there are, where, and why.

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        Sounds pretty violent. I hear about refugees pretty well without it, personally. As an analogy, not everyone needs to be a meteorologist to know the weather.

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          yes, you dont need to know about the history of the weather and why it happens to understand that it will be raining tomorrow. But, i think it’s kinda relevant to know how and why to understand what side of a conflict to support.

          geography also helps you understand the claims politicians make and to see if they’re bs

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            The actual physical location, which side of an imaginary line a person was born on, should absolutely mean fuck all when deciding who to side with.

            Only what each side intends to do and is capable of doing, to minimize all possible harm and loss.

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    I’m a little mad that Nolan is making the Odyssey. It’s gonna be so pretentious and trendy, and I’d be surprised if Anya Taylor Joy, Timothee chalamet and Jeremy Allan White aren’t in it, to round it out into the most pretentious movie in history

    Edit: Nolan can’t film anything but drama. Go watch Batman again and notice how awful the fight scenes are shot and the terrible choreography.

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      Yeah, another heavy dramatic saga to wade through. I think I’d prefer a Simon Pegg/Nick Frost adaptation. Or maybe a Matt Stone/Trey Parker version. Something still epic, but also hilarious and full of the vibrancy of humans.

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        You bring up a point, that in these Greek Epics you do find humor. But Christopher Nolan doesn’t know what a sense of humor is

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          There were a couple of moments in Oppenheimer that had me laughing out loud, but I don’t think that was the intention.

  • Master@lemm.ee
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    12 days ago

    Its not even that great of a mini van. You can get better for cheaper!

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    I’m in Canada.
    I wasn’t taught anything about the Odyssey or Iliad
    But I at least know that they’re ancient and Greek.

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    I am tired of western Cinema jerking off to same old stories, which tbh aren’t the pinnacle of literature or storytelling. There are so many cultural epics which are deserving of the big screen, but unfortunately this western culture bias keeps the general audience from being exposed to any of it.

    It wouldn’t matter, but the issue is then you have utter fucking illiterates and philistines who believe that only western writers, thinkers or philosophers came up with anything good. New flash, many, many of the western writers took their influence from non-western sources.

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      Western media trends towards the myths and legends from western culture? No shit

      I mean, what else would you expect? That’s human nature. Kinda a wild thing to be complaining about

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        I get what you’re saying, but I guess I am just idealistic and expect more from people, like being honest about the sources and influences of their works

        Edit here’s one of the inspirations for Homers odyssey, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh

        Look, I am not saying both of these aren’t great works with their own merits, I am just saying that people aren’t exposed to different things and then live with cultural and racial biases.

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        But imagine if African or pre-Columbine American mythologies were used to film movies and series.

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      I mean

      Every culture does that, though? If anything, Americans appreciating the works of the Greeks is as widespread and diverse as a culture can possibly get.

      Every couple of years Chinese make a new Sun Wukong move, TV show, or videogame. Tibetan Monks and the Dali Lama are a huge cultural phenomenon all over the world. Wuxia/Xianxia based on old Taoism writings and diagrams are popular in all forms of media. Period Dramas about the old aristocracy in Asia are a huge genre.

      Koreans shove Korean dragons and Dokaebi into every medium they can. Japanese love them some Shinto priestess main characters and Yokai stories.

      Arabia’s got thieves guilds, Solomon, and genies and other creatures of fire and wind.

      Russia has Baba Yaga and Rasputin depictions.

      Germany and western Europe have Fairy Tales.

      India has a strong and proud history of racism, classism, Hinduism, nepotism, sexism, I don’t really remember where I was going with this point, tbh.

      Africa… Honestly, Africa might need more time to recover, idk what their cultural epics entail…

      That’s how culture works. The differences and uniqueness make them worth experiencing, and why people work so hard to preserve them in perpetuity across many generations. Except India. Idk y tf they’re doing that shit.

      They could all appreciate some other shit, yeah, but that’s not how culture works.

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        This comment serves as a reminder that the normalized hatred directed at India/South Asia on Reddit is alive and well on Lemmy too

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          A wise man once said “There are two things in the world I can’t stand: people who are intolerant of other people’s cultures… and the Dutch.”

          In both his case and mine, the cultural insensitivity was part of the joke.

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        fucking crazy to denigrate South Asia like that when you made the effort to respect culture for all the other regions you mentioned. I guess all the other countries you mentioned don’t have a history of racism, classism, nepotism, sexism or religion?

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          No they do but for most of them it’s sort of died off a little bit in the last 200 years.

          In India, it doesn’t seem to be declining much…

          Looks like it’s being lifted up.

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            I would actually argue that in many ways it’s increasing, at least in Pakistan where I have family, although these aren’t the only countries with growing fascism and regressive social politics (see lots of Europe and of course the US).

            But your comment was about stories of cultural importance, not race or gender or class; I can’t help but feel offended that you would choose to shit on my culture for some reason instead of identifying relevant stories like you did for the other cultures you mentioned in your comment. I agree that those -isms should be criticized, but India definitely caught a stray from your comment.

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              Yeah, and I did very poorly represent my case. I really didn’t give it much effort or thought, and I apologize for that. It just appears from an outsiders perspective that the Caste System, while not officially in effect, is an integral part of India’s society and it shows in their films and TV. This is also true for the USA whose poor record of Civil Rights is also a continued focus for films and TV.

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        Every couple of years Chinese make a new Sun Wukong move, TV show, or videogame.

        Let’s not forget that in the same way you can trace a huge amount of things you see in Western stories to the Greek epics and Gilgamesh you can trace a huge amount of things you see in anime/manga to the Journey to the West.