No, I am giving you a pithy example of how people will say there isn’t any systemic racism.

I never said that there aren’t racists, but when you have anti-discrimination policies in place, the public believes that there isn’t “systemic racism”. So then the problem becomes that putting policies into place which favor minorities makes it seem like “only minorities are being favored”. That creates divisions and polarization. That’s separate from the issue that nation state actors will use this polarization to create issues in democracies.

That’s why, the best way forward for leftists is to favor policies which target systemic issues for the poor.

Maybe you’re right, and it’s too bad they did away with DEI before we got get any stats on its usefulness for the overall population. I remember that corporates starting removing DEI way before Trump started talking about it because they didn’t find that it did anything which contributed to their growth or leadership.

So if the “system” is racist, then why are some of the highest ranks in the current U.S. administration staffed by POC?

The only people who are not bothered by being called a racist or bigot are actually those things. If I had to guess these people know I am not those things, but they just don’t like what I’ve said. My guess is that it’s probably .ml alt accounts.

How can I convince you I am not a bigot or racist?

I agree with all of that, I’ve said similar things myself. I think the problem is that globalism changed the equation, and that’s why you now have Indian Americans who are a core part of Trump’s admin.

If anti-racial people keep saying that the system is rigged against minorities, then rich minorities are always going to be used as counterexamples. Because that’s the reality now, the power structures favor the wealthy, regardless of race, gender, or any other characteristic.

People trying to protect DEI and CRT will just come across as out of touch with reality, and appear as wanting favoritism, especially as the population of poor whites is also growing. If democrats want to win more elections, they should put forth policies that are in the Nordic model so that they help everyone. If anti-racists and inclusive folks want to build a better future for minorities, they have to think outside of the CRT/DEI box because the system now is not unfavorable to minorities, only the poor.

You’re using these labels against me because you want to bully me into being quiet. Because unless someone expresses the same fanatical and extremist beliefs then they’re a bigot. You’re a bigot.

An academic field means that its work is to introduce ideas which can be made accessible at all levels of education. Like how math is taught at all levels.

CRT is an academic field, it’s not just a “college course”.

Educators were proposing to teach CRT in middle school or younger before that idea got shot down.

DEI is fine by itself, but the CRT connection tainted it.

I think the problem people have with CRT is framing it say only white people are favored by those systems. I don’t think the evidence supports that only white people are favored by the system on average, it seems only rich people are favored by these systems on average.

Misinformation and disinformation does exactly that right? It uses ideological lines to create polarization.

So, let’s say a democratic country favors pro-choice policies, but then has an influx of immigrants who are anti-abortion, and now that population is greater. That’s a change of values because the population shifted to a majority opinion which favors a different view point.

If a country has an idealized view of how it wants to be, then I think it’s fair to expect immigrants to integrate and assimilate. I don’t think that has anything to do with xenophobia or not excluding different cultures, as long as the core values of a country are maintained. For example, if a country wants to maintain a democratic socialist society, and a greater population of capitalists immigrate to it, then I think that socialist society would want to restrict immigration as well.

None of that is bigoted, it’s just pointing out how democracies are fragile.

Nothing I wrote is bigoted, it’s just questioning why people should accept some policies when there are people who literally perform ideological warfare against other countries.

The whole anti-CRT and anti-DEI thing has become my cross to bear, apparently. The fact is that these concepts are not being used by people with the best intentions for preserving democracies. If I am being downvoted for pointing out that there are literally anti-democratic people who want authoritarian regimes of one kind or another, then that’s a problem in how people think. It doesn’t make me a bigot.

Thank you, I get that things are making people tense right now but there’s no need to lose hope. As mentioned, regardless of what someone may think of me based on their understanding of what I’ve posted (and let’s be honest, my posts are often lazily written and not explaining all the details bc they’re just casual), I know what side I would have fought on during WWII or during the U.S. civil war. Discussion is one thing, but when it’s do or die, it’s another.

I think the goal here is to bully me from posting. But I won’t. You’re the ones who are bigoted.

Explain how I am a bigot.

The post I replied to specifically asked what someone had against those concepts, so I made my comment.

There’s this fervor going around that everyone against these policies is a Nazi, and that’s not the case.

What I got from reading those US military perspectives was that people need to be careful about trusting ideas that look one way on the surface, but have a different intent, so I shared that as a comment.

Except I am not right wing or transphobic. You’re judging me as such based on your understanding of what I am saying.

You’re just mad that someone else posts something you disagree with, that doesn’t mean that person is a bigot. I think you need to grow up.

Well, people who become fixed in their way of thinking is a danger of democracy, and why some are convinced that we need authoritarianism for society to keep functioning. I think maybe the issue is that I am just shitposting, but it’s giving someone else a bad mental health day.

Yes, and? What about that is bigoted?

Being against CRT doesn’t mean you’re against anti-discrimination, or giving people better outcomes. Being against DEI doesn’t mean you’re against diversity, equity or inclusion by themselves as concepts. The academics who framed CRT/DEI were some of the most anti-U.S. Marxists, and so I don’t trust their intentions.

Listen, I am not racist, homophobic or transphobic or anything which looks down on others. If the US ever came to a civil war, I know what side I am fighting on.