I actually have to build a new CPU… The last time I had built mine was in 2013 with an Asus i7which lasted quite a while until the whole Windows 11…non compatibility…
Now to look at socket type and see if my. Old casing can take it and yada yada …
I don’t want to go the laptop route since I still prefer desktop for gaming than laptops…
Holy shit How do you build a CPU
Lol what was weird with what I said?
sorry I’m being a douche
“cpu” sometimes refers to the processor chip which goes on the motherboard
Oh man… I’m so tired I didn’t even see my mistake 😂 your not a douche, your just calling out a blunder on my part lol thanks! I corrected it.
But yeah… I ma looking at the specials for motherboards and CPU and… Wow it’s going to br a pain to rebuild a computer… Since I usually like doing it myself
I had one built by a computer repair place when I was in college - they did great and it had a fun case with lights
These days I’m too far out of the loop to get good prices or anything so I bought a laptop from Acer, here is the link
They offered a payment plan, 3 payments over 3 months with 0% interest
a beach, a plasma torch, and a very steady hand
Intel used to have decent naming…
60% or 60 percentage points ?
This is why I love Lemmy (it’s a reference to another thread btw)
Wouldn’t that be the same thing with no other percentages in sight because we’re subtracting from 100%?
I have no idea, that was just a tongue in cheikh reference to that other thread
Power consumption is part of the equation now too. You’ll often see newer generation hardware that has comparable performance to a last gen model but is a lot more power efficient.
Or you’ll see something equally efficient and equally performing at the same power levels…except you’ll see newer gens or upgraded skus allowed to pull more power
And it sucks! Sorry, I mean it SUX.
I occasionally “refresh” my PC with new board, CPU etc. I never buy the top of the line stuff and quite honestly there is little reason to. Games are designed to play perfectly well on mid range computers even if you have to turn off some graphics option that enables some slight improvement in the image quality.
I agree. Another good trick: Don’t buy a 4K screen. GPU’s work for much longer that way.
For many games you can set graphics rendering to for example 1080p but run the whole game in 4k so text, menues and so on are super crisp but the game still runs very light. But maybe it’s good advice to never even start because I can’t imagine going back to 1080p after using 2k and 4k screens
Naming conventions are somewhat consistent; it’s the pricing that has gotten a bit out of hand.
Is 5090 the model number or price?
Yes.
Just don’t rent one from NZXT.
If you are blindly renting things without doing numbers you have bigger issues.
Always read and do long term calculations
Problem is that a lot of “influencers” advertise it to teens as an easy way to get a new computer.
I think that is more on the teens and there parents.
I saw a video on Gamers Nexus about how shitty a company they are. Hopefully word spreads amongst gamers & builders that they’re no good and they should be avoided.
What’s the deal with them? Only NZXT component i’ve had is my current case, which has awful airflow (old model of H710 I think, bought 5 ish years ago).
Apparently they very recently got acquired or invested in and are probably looking to increase profits tenfold in under a year so the company can be dumped before it all crashes.
Apparently their PC rental program is a worse value than illegal loans that are likely mafia-backed.
Meanwhile the data i care about, efficiency, is not readily availlable. I’m not gonna put a 350 watt GPU in the 10 liter case if i can have the same power for 250 watt.
At least TomsHardware now includes efficiency in tests for newer cards.Tell me about it. The numbers that I’m interested in - “decibels under full load”, “temperature at full load” - might as well not exist. Will I be able to hear myself think when I’m using this component for work? Will this GPU cook all of my hard drives, or can it vent the heat out the back sufficiently?
Temperature is meaningless unless you want oc headroom. A watt into your room is the same no matter the temp the part runs at.
That’s not correct, I’m afraid.
Thermal expansion is proportional to temperature; it’s quite significant for ye olde spinning rust hard drives but the mechanical stress affects all parts in a system. Especially for a gaming machine that’s not run 24/7 - it will experience thermal cycling. Mechanical strength also decreases with increasing temperature, making it worse.
Second law of thermodynamics is that heat only moves spontaneously from hotter to colder. A 60° bath can melt more ice than a 90° cup of coffee - it contains more heat - but it can’t raise the temperature of anything above 60°, which the coffee could. A 350W graphics card at 20° couldn’t raise your room above that temperature, but a 350W graphics card at 90° could do so. (The “runs colder” card would presumably have big fans to move the heat away.)
I wish this was data was more available. I got a GPU upgrade 6800xt and it’s so loud. I can’t enjoy sitting at my desk without hearing a loud whine and a bunch of other annoying noises. Its probably because the card is 2nd hand but still.
GamersNexus has start add efficiency score in frame / joule. Also have full writeup of video on website.
Thousand times this. For actual builders that care about the nuance it all probably makes sense but then there is me over here looking at pre-builts wondering why the fuck are two seemingly identical machines have a $500 difference between them.
I’m spending so much time pouring through spec sheets to find “oh the non-z version discombobulator means this cheaper one is gonna be trash in three years when I can afford to upgrade to a 6megadong tri-actor unit”.
I’m in this weird state of to cheap to buy a Mac and can’t be arsed to build my own.
Just go here and check the charts for the kind of work you want the PC to do. If one looks promising you can check specific reviews on YouTube.
For gaming the absolute best cpu/gpu combo currently is the 9800x3d and a gtx 4090, if you don’t have a budget.
Yes the part naming is confusing but it’s intentional.
Yes the part naming is confusing but it’s intentional
Yes, that’s what people are upset about.
It’s funny that you wrote the wrong GPU name while agreeing that the naming is confusing.
R*TX 4090
Gamer’s Nexus
They periodically run out of integers so they have to reuse old ones.
I’m going to buy an entry level motherboard …
Just buy AMD 😜
AMD is one of the worst with naming
Explain yourself.
Make sure to get your 5900x3d with your 7900XTX. Note that one is a CPU and the other is a GPU. For extra fun, their numbers should eventually overlap given their respective incrementation schemes. The 5900x3d is the successor to the 5900xd, which is a major step down in performance even though it has more cores.
I’m gonna give this award to Intel, which has increased the numbers on their CPU line by 1000 every generation since before the 2008 housing crash.
They already do overlap, 7000 series CPUs have been out for a while. As have the 5000 series GPUs.
…don’t worry, I’m sure Intel won’t change things up on us… right? (Just pretend the last year of Intel CPUs didn’t happen)
It’s so annoying when you buy a GPU instead of a CPU.
Or when you buy a GPU inside of your CPU.
Just ordered another CPU from them. Downside is that there isn’t any modern AMD desktop platform that works with coreboot, which seems to be the only workable way to deactivate the Management Engine/Platform Security Processor after boot.
Was really considering to swap to Intel for that, but got a good deal on a Ryzen 9 that fits in my socket, so…
Is there anything from the last 10 years that runs coreboot?
You are mixing coreboot up with libreboot
Also libreboot now ships some proprietary firmware so it is more compatible then it used to be.
They want you to fork over some cash for the most current binaries, though.
You can of course just build it from source.
The most current AMD Boards that are supported are FM2+. I actually have an FM2+ processor flying around somewhere, an Athlon II X4 860K, but that thing uses a lot of power for not very much performance.
Oh is this a different project to libreboot?
Yeah, it’s a different coreboot fork. They seem to be kinda focused on selling their implementation to corporate users, but if that finances open source development, I’m not gonna complain.
You still need to understand their naming convention if you plan on comparing hardware.
The only thing you should realistic understand from the naming conventions is relative generations and which bracket of price/performance the part targets. Assuming more than that is just a mistake.
Is it not still “higher better” at AMD? With the obvious X or “m”, but usually price reflects the specs when the numbers are the same.
Honestly my preferred manufacturer since I started putting together my own machines.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/ is what I use
Userbenchmark is a terrible site. Its a shame it shows up first in the search results.
userbenchmark is a biased site(anti AMD) soo much that it’s actually banned from /r/Intel. Absolutely do NOT use userbenchmark
userbenchmark is a biased site(anti AMD) soo much that it’s actually banned from /r/Intel.
“I love youuuuu so muchh😍”
“GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME!”
They fudge their criteria to make intel look good and AMD bad. Do not use this.
