How are they hypocritical? They said no and gave what they thought was an appropriate consequence.
There is zero context here and if you were running a business and gave anyone off who asked there would be days you would have to close because you are short staffed. It’s very easy to say from your couch what you would do but when you need your business to provide for your family you think a little differently.
They told him in one sentence he was essential, and in another, he was replaceable. Either they did not need him for the time he requested, as evidenced by the fact that they fired him, or they DID need him, and the boss isn’t a hypocrite, just a short sighted idiot on a power trip.
The worst thing you can do as an employee is prove to your employer you are not needed. The boss said employee was needed but the employee proved him wrong.
Honestly I said that from my toilet. But the point is that businesses that tend to say no to their employees about PTO normally aren’t operating in a way that gives employees the freedom to have a life outside of work. Sure, there’s the odd chance that it’s not the case, but more often than not this is what happens.
The hypocrisy IMO comes from the act of “oh well I couldn’t give you the time off, you took it anyways, so you’re fired.” Which I get from a business perspective bc the employee went against the schedule, but why not find ways to not let your team get to that point. Most small businesses don’t even offer PTO to begin with.
Creating an unhealthy work environment, then punishing your people for it is being a hypocrite.
You are absolutely right. Again all I’m saying is there is no context. A good business will find a way to accommodate for example hire a temp or seasonal.
How are they hypocritical? They said no and gave what they thought was an appropriate consequence.
There is zero context here and if you were running a business and gave anyone off who asked there would be days you would have to close because you are short staffed. It’s very easy to say from your couch what you would do but when you need your business to provide for your family you think a little differently.
“we need workers so you can’t take PTO”
“We don’t need you, you’re fired.”
They told him in one sentence he was essential, and in another, he was replaceable. Either they did not need him for the time he requested, as evidenced by the fact that they fired him, or they DID need him, and the boss isn’t a hypocrite, just a short sighted idiot on a power trip.
The worst thing you can do as an employee is prove to your employer you are not needed. The boss said employee was needed but the employee proved him wrong.
I mean, sure. Still hypocritical.
So naturally you assume that the guy bragging about firing someone is in the right.
A. They didn’t assume, they said “we’re lacking info and here is a hypothetical”.
B. Everyone else in this thread is assuming the opposite and no one cares there. Why only care about assumptions when it’s one you don’t like?
It’s valid to point out the other perspective.
It wasn’t a secondhand account. If the guy had a good justification for firing someone, he would have mentioned it.
Honestly I said that from my toilet. But the point is that businesses that tend to say no to their employees about PTO normally aren’t operating in a way that gives employees the freedom to have a life outside of work. Sure, there’s the odd chance that it’s not the case, but more often than not this is what happens.
The hypocrisy IMO comes from the act of “oh well I couldn’t give you the time off, you took it anyways, so you’re fired.” Which I get from a business perspective bc the employee went against the schedule, but why not find ways to not let your team get to that point. Most small businesses don’t even offer PTO to begin with.
Creating an unhealthy work environment, then punishing your people for it is being a hypocrite.
You are absolutely right. Again all I’m saying is there is no context. A good business will find a way to accommodate for example hire a temp or seasonal.