When I last visited Canada a group of old men were talking at the Canadian Tire about how long it takes to see a doctor. Were saying they need to start making people pay like they do in the States.
Don’t fall for that propaganda. We have both long waits and pay a ton of money in the US. It can be both. I’ve had bills up to $118,000 and it can take me a year to see a specialist. I can’t find a primary care doctor and it takes several months to get in with a temporary nurse practitioner instead.
Most likely the insurance covered a huge chunk of that.
It’s a long story, but the TL;DR; of American healthcare is:
Healthcare providers over-inflate their costs and over-charge by orders of magnitude to insurance agencies. Why? It’s because insurance agencies have whole teams and teams and teams and teams and teams (80% of insurance companies cost is administrative groups that just do this) of people that negotiate/argue that down to a reasonable amount. This means they pay a fraction of that initial bill, but they don’t show that in the printout, instead they negotiate only “their part” of the bill, and send the rest they didn’t negotiate down to the enrollee to cover up to their yearly maximum.
This is why you see bills for $100K+ and your amount owed is roughly $2-3K with insurance “paying” the rest.
I didn’t. I put some on credit card that was required up front in hospital and the rest went into debt collection while I fought the insurance company for 2 years. Eventually I ended up paying about $12,000 I think.
But the credit cards interest was more and I have been in severe debt the past decade since. All my money goes towards debt payments and bills.
Oh yeah, we are. Pierre says privatization is cool, and like morons, the majority of Canada believes that this rendition of trickle down economics won’t line the pockets of the rich
It’s the provinces with an outrageously wealthy upper class. BC, Calgary Alberta, and Ontario are chock full of rich conservatives that want to replicate the American system in Canada so that they can rival their American peers.
What’s more depressing than American healthcare?
Canadian conservatives replacing theirs with the American system without a fight.
When I last visited Canada a group of old men were talking at the Canadian Tire about how long it takes to see a doctor. Were saying they need to start making people pay like they do in the States.
Don’t fall for that propaganda. We have both long waits and pay a ton of money in the US. It can be both. I’ve had bills up to $118,000 and it can take me a year to see a specialist. I can’t find a primary care doctor and it takes several months to get in with a temporary nurse practitioner instead.
How did you have 118000 to pay?
Most likely the insurance covered a huge chunk of that.
It’s a long story, but the TL;DR; of American healthcare is:
Healthcare providers over-inflate their costs and over-charge by orders of magnitude to insurance agencies. Why? It’s because insurance agencies have whole teams and teams and teams and teams and teams (80% of insurance companies cost is administrative groups that just do this) of people that negotiate/argue that down to a reasonable amount. This means they pay a fraction of that initial bill, but they don’t show that in the printout, instead they negotiate only “their part” of the bill, and send the rest they didn’t negotiate down to the enrollee to cover up to their yearly maximum.
This is why you see bills for $100K+ and your amount owed is roughly $2-3K with insurance “paying” the rest.
I didn’t. I put some on credit card that was required up front in hospital and the rest went into debt collection while I fought the insurance company for 2 years. Eventually I ended up paying about $12,000 I think.
But the credit cards interest was more and I have been in severe debt the past decade since. All my money goes towards debt payments and bills.
Ohh I misread your comment I though you said you were in Canada, that’s why I was confused lol
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It’s pathetic. We are willing choosing to let it go, despite being such a huge advantage of being Canadian
Wait are you guys going down the shitter too? Illegally migrating to canada has always been my backup plan
Oh yeah, we are. Pierre says privatization is cool, and like morons, the majority of Canada believes that this rendition of trickle down economics won’t line the pockets of the rich
the entire conservative agenda is to dismantle universal healthcare from the inside to prove that “it doesn’t work, we should privatize it”
Someone didn’t hear about the convoys
I hear this a lot but where is it happening? Definitely not in the discussion in NS.
Dont get me wrong, fuck the PCs but I havent seen any real evidence of replacing our public medical system.
It’s not “our” it’s per province. Alberta in my case.
It’s the provinces with an outrageously wealthy upper class. BC,
CalgaryAlberta, and Ontario are chock full of rich conservatives that want to replicate the American system in Canada so that they can rival their American peers.