• richardisaguy@lemmy.world
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    i seriously do not understand what’s up with some of you, why do you spell stuff like in “m$”. The extra work to type it like this doesn’t matter at all. It makes no difference, Microsoft will not shut down because you spelled their name as “micro$oft” on your lemmy post or something like that. why do you keep doing this, i don’t understand.

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    The windows one seems exaggerated until you try to set it up with a regular local account.

    Setting up a scratch install VM is such a pain.

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    Installing windows takes stupidly long. You have to click through 60 pages and click “No, i don’t want to share my data” just for them to collect it anyway

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    All these threads make me want to take the leap to Linux. My work laptop runs on Mint, but as for my home pc… guess I’ll still have to wait for more Proton development/compatibility. Last time I checked, part of the games I want to play soon (Remnant 2, Supervive, Legion TD 2, Morimens, Sengoku Dynasty, Ravenswatch and a few others) seem to seem to imply a little more experimentation than I’d like.

    Don’t get me wrong, as a modder of obscure Chinese games and at work, I’m all for experimenting. But for the 1h per day I can play, I’ll wait until I’m quite sure I won’t spend it tinkering around to get my current games to work.

    But I sure hope it will be sooner than later!

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      I have heard of absolutely none of those games. Looking at protondb, it’s a mixed bag of miscellaneous hassle. Supervive actually has a message that reads “wine, proton, and steam deck are not supported by this application”. Legion TD seems like you have to pray to RNG-sus. Dynasty has no reports at all… For the issues people are having with some of these, aside from supervive just blocking wine entirely, it is indeed more janky tinkering than I could justify doing myself, let alone expecting anyone else to.

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    Debloated windows is very easy. Installs super fast and I don’t even have to be there to push any buttons.

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    I suppose its all relative, but I didn’t find debloated windows to be much worse than anything else. I used microwin though, is that a different experience?

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    Hobbyist here, in my opinion reading the manual or the wiki is easy, understanding it quickly is not. You can obvioulsy follow the instructions blindly and still succeed.

    For the most part is very comprehensive but sometimes you are left alone to connect the dots which is very daunting when instructions get technical and you do not understand them.

    In the end it felt like one of those half semester courses Universities try to cram in.

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    post windows 7/early 10 versions, I would place it harder than arch. I had to go through a bunch of shit to get my mobo mount nvme drives to show up, then came the cursed hell of just clicking through all the setup questions where they make it sound like you have a choice, but you don’t unless you do the custom install image bullshit aka the harder windows install on the chart.

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        At the top because you risk going to jail for violating the Apple terms of service/end user license agreement.

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      Well Mac users do too… Well they don’t… but someone does.

      I was that someone for some family members. I felt icky the whole time.

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        I once upgraded a girl’s parents’ computer to System 8 and didn’t realize it wasn’t supported. Fucked up the BIOS (or whatever Macs used back then) and they had to ship it back to Apple to get fixed. I did not hear from her again.

        But I haven’t actually installed Mac OS since about Puma. New operating systems just come down in the normal software update. But I still cherish my OS X Beta DVD.

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          A couple months ago my sister bricked her mac somehow… it wouldn’t boot past the stupid white screen with a ? on it.

          Had to edit random shit on the built in installer to get it to talk to apple correctly and pull the correct OS image to fix itself. It was a full OS install/recovery.

          Easy enough because I understand linux/unix and underneath that’s all it is… but mac users are just stupidly lost… And to get to some of those tools, because they’re so buried underneath the “MAC experience”… it’s a pain in the ass too.

          I can’t be bothered to remember what version it was… I hate touching maps. I only did that one cause it was my sister.

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            Easy enough because I understand linux/unix and underneath that’s all it is… but mac users are just stupidly lost… And to get to some of those tools, because they’re so buried underneath the “MAC experience”… it’s a pain in the ass too.

            As a Mac user since System 1.0 with over 20 years of experience using Linux for Fortune 500 companies and major government agencies: Most people are stupidly lost, regardless of the OS they’re using.

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    You can install the enterprise iot version or running chris titus’s debloat script. But if you do this, you’re technically savvy enough to use Linux and really want to/have to stay on Windows.

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    Yes, please stay away from Windows if you have such difficulties installing it.

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    Okay I’m a big supporter of Linux but this is misinformation.

    Windows 11 LTSC install was the easiest install I’ve ever done, even easier than mint (or as easy).

    The imagine I used even asked me the username when I was creating the bootable usb so I would save some time.

    It also let me opt out of data collection and the rest of the bloatware.

    Came with office and it was pre activated.

    Now, if only that’s what Microsoft offered their mainstream consumer…

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      I have no idea what you’re talking about. I mean that in the sense that whatever you’ve used to install Windows, it must not be common knowledge or the default.

      If you need special knowledge or access, I would call that “difficulty”. So even though, after you had all your special knowledge or access, it was easy, acquiring those preconditions was hard.

      I.e. it was difficult to install Windows overall.

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      The last Windows I installed was Windows 10. I was trying to install onto a SATA SSD, while keeping my pre-existing Linux installation on the M.2 SSD intact. This took me an unreasonably long time and lots of failed attempts, and in the end, the only way I could find to make it work was to first physically remove the M.2, then install Windows, then add the M.2 back again. Which sucked a lot, because M.2s are really not optimized for easy or frequent installation and deinstallation.