I honestly hated idea of linux for soooo long. Ew. Like ew. Doesn’t work, borks, needs command line, wtf is that steaming pile of…yeah. Ew.
But insert the goddamn bird with cracker meme after I tried Nobara last year (tried some other distros too). When Windows 10 loses support, I am pretty confident that Nobara will fill most of my needs.
And, well, have some IT experience, with linux too, so occasional terminal isn’t that bad. I was simply afraid of constantly having to work in terminal.
I use CLI a lot because I find it much more convenient, so I’m genuinely curious where do you actually still need it in a modern distro as a standard user?
Hmm, mount a network drive, or any drive? On Windows it’s a few clicks in Explorer, but I’m not aware of it being that easy on any distro I used. Always had to go into /etc/fstab manually
I actually use KDE’s discover to apply all the updates (flathub and yum). Mainly because I’m lazy and the update icon appears and it’s quick to just click through.
I just checked and it doesn’t seem to pick up all the updates that pacman or yay does. Looks like, among other things it’s missing updates for samba, konsole, and plasma-addons
That is probably very distro dependent, I’m currently using bazzite on my daily driver and there the “updater” goes over absolutely everything: system images, custom dnf packages, containers, apt-get inside distrobox, flatpak… I guess also Android apps in way droid, but that I haven’t gotten into yet.
My kids’ PCs have a gnome extension that says how many updates there are and you can install them by clicking on the icon. Could be handy if you use gnome too.
For arch at least there’s a widget you can add that does the same thing, it can show the number of available updates and works with pacman, yay, and a few other AUR package managers too.
KDE has a GUI app called Discover that will do Flatpaks as well as other package management systems. It shows me RPM packages that I normally update with zypper
Well, the thing is, you almost don’t. But like the other commenter said, most instructions are for terminal when something happens and from my - fairly limited as of now - experience, terminal is still key to linux configuration.
What was mostly generating the Ew response was the fact that linux isn’t really known for being newbie friendly. Then getting hit with headless debian during studies also didn’t exactly change what I thought.
In my experience learning Windows 10 for my job, the results of searching for how to do something are: ‘click-this’ tutorials that don’t work because Microsoft changed something in the next edition, editing the registry, or PowerShell commands. The registry editing sometimes doesn’t work because Microsoft changed something. The PowerShell method is the way to go, because Microsoft has embraced the command line.
Which is honestly a good thing, it’s so much better than instructions that are like click here -> drag to the left -> open a three level deep menu -> check the box -> reopen that menu -> click go. Or even worse, instructions that are a video
I honestly hated idea of linux for soooo long. Ew. Like ew. Doesn’t work, borks, needs command line, wtf is that steaming pile of…yeah. Ew.
But insert the goddamn bird with cracker meme after I tried Nobara last year (tried some other distros too). When Windows 10 loses support, I am pretty confident that Nobara will fill most of my needs.
And, well, have some IT experience, with linux too, so occasional terminal isn’t that bad. I was simply afraid of constantly having to work in terminal.
I use CLI a lot because I find it much more convenient, so I’m genuinely curious where do you actually still need it in a modern distro as a standard user?
Hmm, mount a network drive, or any drive? On Windows it’s a few clicks in Explorer, but I’m not aware of it being that easy on any distro I used. Always had to go into /etc/fstab manually
I just use it to get updates with apt-get or Pacman or yay. I haven’t seen any other way to update non flatpack programs on the distros I use
I actually use KDE’s discover to apply all the updates (flathub and yum). Mainly because I’m lazy and the update icon appears and it’s quick to just click through.
I just checked and it doesn’t seem to pick up all the updates that pacman or yay does. Looks like, among other things it’s missing updates for samba, konsole, and plasma-addons
That is probably very distro dependent, I’m currently using bazzite on my daily driver and there the “updater” goes over absolutely everything: system images, custom dnf packages, containers, apt-get inside distrobox, flatpak… I guess also Android apps in way droid, but that I haven’t gotten into yet.
My kids’ PCs have a gnome extension that says how many updates there are and you can install them by clicking on the icon. Could be handy if you use gnome too.
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1010/archlinux-updates-indicator/
I’m a recent convert, so I picked KDE since it looked familiar. Might try gnome in the future tho, since I hear a lot of good things about it.
For arch at least there’s a widget you can add that does the same thing, it can show the number of available updates and works with pacman, yay, and a few other AUR package managers too.
What’s the name of the widget?
I think just Arch Update Checker iirc
KDE has a GUI app called Discover that will do Flatpaks as well as other package management systems. It shows me RPM packages that I normally update with
zypperWell, the thing is, you almost don’t. But like the other commenter said, most instructions are for terminal when something happens and from my - fairly limited as of now - experience, terminal is still key to linux configuration.
What was mostly generating the Ew response was the fact that linux isn’t really known for being newbie friendly. Then getting hit with headless debian during studies also didn’t exactly change what I thought.
It’s not that you neeeed it for most basic stuff, but if you search how to do something the results are more commonly terminal commands.
In my experience learning Windows 10 for my job, the results of searching for how to do something are: ‘click-this’ tutorials that don’t work because Microsoft changed something in the next edition, editing the registry, or PowerShell commands. The registry editing sometimes doesn’t work because Microsoft changed something. The PowerShell method is the way to go, because Microsoft has embraced the command line.
Which is honestly a good thing, it’s so much better than instructions that are like click here -> drag to the left -> open a three level deep menu -> check the box -> reopen that menu -> click go. Or even worse, instructions that are a video