I love that this dumb dumb made a post on reddit. There are search engines, large language models, and the good ole thesaurus to find words that are synonyms. Figure. It. Out.
Girl, woman
Except “woman” doesn’t mean “female person” anymore, it means “anyone who identifies as a woman” because attaching any common noun at all for people based on sex rather than gender would be accused of transphobia.
It’s kind of like if someone asked what the term for the sexual orientation of someone who is interested in partners they could hypothetically reproduce with is, the answer is there isn’t one and suggesting there should be will get called transphobic.
Do you often find yourself in discussions where the trans-inclusivity/exclusivity of the term is important to know?
Because whenever I use “men, guys” or any other such term, whether it includes trans people doesn’t even cross my mind. Like the discussions if we should welcome “guy friends” at our girls’ game and gossip nights, or if I’m being too naive around “men”. Talking about “males” like an alien species would be weird and mildly offensive. (Mildly because the Finnish word “uros” can imply admiration for a man’s masculinity.)
If you wanted a term for potential partners you could possibly reproduce with, none of the “female, woman, male, man” terms by itself would do, because (even personally known) infertility for various reasons exists.
Just say what you mean. Intersex and trans people exist. For example, “menstruator” or “people who menstruate” if you’re talking about periods. Not all women menstruate, not everyone who menstruates is a woman, and hell, there are plenty of people who have uteruses but don’t menstruate. It’s way clearer and inclusive.
Is it hypothetical because no one has wanted to reproduce with you for some elusive reason?
partners they could hypothetically reproduce with
“fertile women”
“women capable of pregnancy”
Outdated, slight red flag option: “gynephile”
Or you could even try “I find women attractive and would love to have kids with the woman I love one day”
There, language isn’t that hard.
You’re actually demonstrating my point - I said “a common noun” for one and “a term” for the other. The whole point is that any “acceptable” language for those notions (a person of the sort who possesses female genitals and potentially has ova that she could hypothetically carry to term and identifies as a woman and a person attracted to the sort of person they might hypothetically be able to reproduce with) has to have at the very minimum an adjective if not an entire phrase attached to it.
For example, imagine someone tried to re-popularize the old English words to refer to cis folks, using wifmen for cis women in this example. That would immediately be deemed transphobic, specifically because it’s a common noun to refer specifically to cis women and not a shared category you have to use an adjective or phrase to differentiate from.
Same thing applies to orientation - we have a lot of words for sexual orientations. But a word for a person who is attracted to cis people of a given sex relative to one’s own is unacceptable - the very idea that there could be a term for it is transphobic. Despite sexual attraction being one of those rare cases where what genitals you have and whether or not they’re the original equipment is actually relevant.
Also wouldn’t “gynephile” meaning one who has an attraction to women still not be precise enough, since women includes trans women by definition, at least the feminine ones?
So that hypothetic person is turned off by learning someone is infertile for any reason?
Let’s say yes, since we’re in a hypothetical. Breeding fetish, perhaps? Maybe just someone who’s specifically looking for a long term relationship leading into children?
You thought you ate with this comment 😂
Is this why they always ask how to define “woman”?
Meanwhile: males, dudes, guys, homies, fellas, bois, bros, lads, laddie, mates, geezers, chaps, gents, boss, hoss, cheif, buddy, pal, son, sonny, sonny boy, muchacho, hombre, old timer, Mac, Joe…
“Yeah what’s up?”
I don’t think we need to cancel Guys and Dolls just yet.
I love that half of these are fully gender neutral terms of endearment in Australia 😂
Honestly a lot of them start out as or still contextually imply “males” in the US, but can be used gender neutrally as well now too. Like “how you guys doing” vs “hanging out with the guys.”
It’s interesting isn’t it? “Guys” can include women, and can even be a group of only women, but you can’t talk about a single woman as a guy - “I snogged this gorgeous guy last night”.
Sexism is a helluva drug.
What is a woman?
Try taking to one and find out.
Someone who covers her drink when you enter the room
Dudettes
I identify with this unironically as a low conscientiousness male feminist.
Women implies the existence of nimen and tamen
Hmm. Wōmen… Men of Wō… I don’t mean to be racist but their triads freak me out.
Ooo help me learn today if you don’t mind… Where does this prefix grouping come from?
Edit: found it, I think: Chinese?
Yeah, what they’re saying doesn’t make much sense logically though.
Men here is 们, the plural marker for people. Wo (我) is I or me, wo+men (我们) we or us, ni (你) is you, ni+men (你们) is you (plural), ta (他/她/它) is he/she/it, and ta+men (+们) is they.
Some other variants exists, and there’s specifics on the usage. I also missed the tone markers on the pinyin because they’re a pain to type.
Anyway I’m not sure what joke or point they were trying to make.
Correct; wo, ni, ta are the singular forms I, you, he/she/it. Adding the -men suffix turns it into the plural we/you/they.
So literally, ‘we’ are ‘women’.
Mmmmm… ramen
‘feminine species’ 😭😭😭
TIL that apparently we’re an entirely different species. Homo sapiens and lesbo sapiens?
Come on, that’s just obvious bait
As a man who likes fedoras, this stereotype offends me. Sadly, it’s an accurate description most of th etime.
You need to get big into two tone ska, then the fedora is socially acceptable again.
Usually it’s a cheap Trilby anyway.
Usually the Redditors wear the fedora without knowing how to pair it correctly with the rest of their outfits, so don’t worry, if you wear a nice attire and a fedora people won’t get you confused with the guy wearing an ahegao t-shirt two sizes too small and cargo shorts.
And I can hear it spoken with a lisp that you get when talking with a mouth full of prosthetics. Pfemales
Lass
I favor wench.
Now that’s classy, my lassie!
Holy shit, R*ddit denouncing misogony
Not with Jailbait mod Spez at the helm.
It’s important to note that jailbait featured girls who were intentionally posed/looked much younger than bordering 17. I think people might try to justify it/imagine it as older looking teenagers, it was not.
The mods/power users also traded CSAM, and comment sections were used for trading the real thing. There may have been official rules against it, but these communities had codes.
There was also violentacrez little empire. I don’t understand what purpose a community like “picsofdeadkids” has. I think even if you are a free speech absolutist you can question what obligation Reddit had to host such content.
