• مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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    14 days ago

    The world will be split between countries that trade freely with China and countries that don’t.

    This will be the test and control for whether trading with China is good or bad.

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        13 days ago

        Other countries are reporting different and positive results. I think this is the kind of thing that we will see the outcome of decades later. It will be interesting to see how much of the perceived negative impact is due to ingrained racism and xenophobia especially in the West.

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    11 days ago
    1. Not true at all. Vile lies spread by the Democrats.
    2. Okay, maybe it is true, but it’s actually a good thing.
    3. Okay, maybe the results are catastrophic, but it’s actually the Democrats’ fault. The solution is higher tariffs.
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      13 days ago

      Remember that you need a pretty new setup to get to run a windows OS that still receives updates. If we talk about computers that is.

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          I am almost there. I had so much problem with Linux on my server that i run back in the days that I said I never want to touch Linux again after last time i installed it. It broke a couple of years later and I knew I could not run windows but had read about Linux mint. Installed with no expectations and that was easier than windows. No problems, easy to config and I got everything to just work as I wish.

          The step from going to Linux on my main computer is not far. I guess I will dual boot for a while since I play a lot of games and once I get accustomed to it I guess it will be my main. Fuck windows.

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      13 days ago

      You guys buy new? In Putin Russia we make our own laptops from dishwashers! Imported from Ukraine!

      More seriously, I use some i5-2700 desktop computer and just happy.

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      13 days ago

      Used electronics you already own goes brrr Used electronics for sale will go up in price, because the seller needs money to buy new electronics or maybe food

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      12 days ago

      Yayyyy, right as Windows 10 is going EOL and Windows 11 doesn’t work on BIOS systems we’re seeing a big increase in prices!

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    13 days ago

    It sucks the prices will go up, and I’m not saying I want this but I feel like they would go up higher than this based on what he said.

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      13 days ago

      I’m not sure what’s worse. the fact you can understand the incoherence or that you believed any of it.

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    13 days ago

    Good. I hope he does it. Don’t let any of his yes-men or cronies tell him what a horrible idea it is. Let the whole fucking country burn.

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    13 days ago

    Trump’s not going to need to apply tarifs.

    Biden has both Russia and China on the back foot with failing economies, and significant social unrest. Both are desperate to make a deal with Trump. Trump only succeeds in negotiation when he can bully his adversary.

    If Biden had the faculties, he could have whipped both countries and probably avoided this mess.

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      13 days ago

      Trump whipped Mexico really well into paying for that wall.

      Trump just talks a bunch of shit lol. That’s actually why he won. Because he promised everything to everyone. He doesn’t have any real plans other than those related to genitals and immigrants. He never backs it up with any evidence either

      Trump negotiated really well with Foxconn too. Remember that 10 billion factory they were gonna build thanks to Trump?

      In fact, I’m actually willing to bet petrol prices and power prices will increase too. Because suddenly, batteries and solar have less competition and even if manufacturered in US, they can raise their prices

      It’s just really dumb 😂

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        Actually, I am really removed from the US domestic situation, and only impacted by the US foreign policy situation.

        I’m just trying to point out that he can use his threats to get what he wants, which is the only tactic that he actually knows how to do. Unless he got smarter since his last tern.

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    It will at least be extremely funny to watch all the right wing gamer bro chuds freak the fuck out when an immediate consequence of their actions will be that gaming pc components instantly inflate 50% in price.

    Glad I already got my Steam Deck, fuck.

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      14 days ago

      but but… Orange men said it was good for the economy, now I have to pay 2000 Dollars for a 5090? Why aren’t they coming to America and produce here!?

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          Oh, the thing Trump called “so bad” on Joe Rogan a couple weeks ago? He said that tariffs are his preferred strategy to force companies to build in the US. Maybe that was just rhetoric and you can’t trust it, but he did say it.

          As it stands, CHIPS isn’t going anywhere, so at least Americans won’t be totally fucked.

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            I know these things take time, but it’s really hard not to be skeptical of CHIPS amounting to much. It reminds me too much of all the grant money given to telecom companies like AT&T and Verizon - supposed to be for improving infrastructure and implementing 5G, but they just pocketed the money as profit.

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              For what it’s worth, I agree with you. Most telecom infrastructure funding has been historically pocketed. There is a chance it does work, though.

              If not, maybe the tariffs will help in the short term by minimizing profit from overseas supply chains and incentivize American manufacturing, causing a positive effect on the sector in concert with CHIPS (but I doubt it).

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            14 days ago

            Its a pretty strategically and economically impactful piece of legislation pushed by, and then signed into law, by Biden, in 2022.

            It basically sets up a bunch of tax incentives and funds to go toward building out domestic computer hardware research and manufacturing.

            Its the kind of thing that would lay the foundation for the US building a lot more of its own computer hardware, instead of importing it.

            So when the Trump tariff apocalypse hits… assuming the CHIPS Act does not get repealed, it will be the only saving grace in terms of possibly lowering computer hardware costs.

            Trump and Republicans are likely to try and take credit for this, if domestic chip fabs start coming online before 2028, pretending it is something they came up with.

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      14 days ago

      Bold of you to assune they won’t just blame Dems because it isn’t like reality matters.

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      14 days ago

      This post is my reminder that I should probably upgrade my graphics card this December, rather than waiting for any other time.

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        13 days ago

        I guess there will be many people thinking that, driving up demand->increasing prices before any tariffs even exist.

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      14 days ago

      yep! and by then it’s too late. they’ve already shot themselves in the foot, they just haven’t felt the pain yet.

      edit - and honestly, if we were actually producing all this stuff locally and competitively, I would be OK with these chinese tariffs since it would encourage buying USA-made. The problem is that we arent, and probably won’t be for a while. we’d all suffer in the meantime.

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      If you think that’s funny just wait for all the construction bros to discover that Milwaukee is now a Chinese company and their M18 HD12 batteries suddenly cost >500 a pop

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        And automotive guys figuring out a good chunk of their replacement parts are European.

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          Oh, that too. Most of these compact SUVs are built foreign because that’s where they generate the most revenue. Imagine hitting a pheasant in your Chevy, a pheasant of all things, and getting a 10k insurance estimate because it cracked your made-in-Mexico integrated LED headlamp assembly and split your bumper cover

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      I really really hope that they will enact their economic agenda before their racist agenda. When they denaturalize and deport citizens, half of us will be cheering (unfortunately). When the price of electronics/ cars increases it distributes harm to all.

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    13 days ago

    As someone who works for a large US-based company, we are locking in large contracts ASAP for compute power to hopefully keep us sated and avoid these from being an extinction event. We were already discussing some vendors not offering supply contracts already because they see the writing on the wall for their own profit margins

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    Where so you think American farmers buy their fertilizer? Where they sell most of their soy and corn sell to? Maaaaany companies are either buying or selling to/from China. Many will go bankrupt, bany will struggle.

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      China is strengthening ties with Russia to replace u.s trade, and it shows that Putin is laughing his ass off at how he played a whole country, other than his I mean

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    13 days ago

    Fuck.

    It hasn’t even started yet and I know that I have 4 more years of this stupidity news ever single day

    Oh wait

    Since Trump will install himself as a dictator, then die, we have a few decades of couche fucker Vance to look forward to, yeeeiii

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      I’m not convinced we’ll go even a single decade of this regime without total socioeconomic collapse.

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        The Hitler lasted from July 1932, and Hitler killed himself in April 1945 - 13 years.

        Mussolini lasted from 1922 to his execution in 1945 - 23 years.

        Stalin lasted 1924-1953 - 29 years.

        Fascism inevitably implodes and crates untold suffering along the way, but you might have longer than you think.

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            Fascism and idiots - I couldn’t name a more iconic duo - though I do agree with you point… Trump is exceptionally stupid, and has surrounded himself with gibbering idiots like Musk and RFK.

            …that said, when Trump’s heart inevitably explodes, Vance will almost certainly have competent (evil) advisors, and they’ll get (horrible) shit done.