The Fun Police really misinterpreted this. This is not saying anything about how good or bad LD is. I was just expecting something more like what TAS was to TOS. Other than the fact that TAS episodes were half the length and that the animated nature allowed them to afford to depict more exotic things like underwater scenes and six-limbed bridge crew members, TOS/TAS were mostly the same. They had roughly the same degree of adventure, philosophy, humor, etc. On the other hand, LD targeted a different audience by focusing on qualities that had not been prioritized in any earlier series. I was just disappointed by how different LD is from TAS.

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    i love lower decks but that’s in spite of and not because of the “adult humor.” the jokes that make me laugh- which is most of them!- would be exactly the same if it was an all ages program on Nickelodeon like Prodigy. the good does ultimately outweigh the bad, and signifigantly so, i just think it was a missed opportunity. i was pretty young when i watched TNG and TOS with my parents and probably would’ve gotten a huge kick out of LD

    apparently tawney newsome is gonna be writing on the starfleet academy show so that might end up being The Best of Both Worlds (Parts I and II) between all-ages trek and funny trek

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    Lower Decks is peak Star Trek. The humor is almost entirely related to previous ST series.

    Is OP a Klingon agent sent to ruin our fun?

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    That’s kinda how I feel about the majority of adult cartoons outside of shows like King of The Hill that feel more down to Earth in a way and less like a full-on highschool level comedy. I personally don’t like adult animation usually as a rule because of shows like family guy, robot chicken, and such. There are definitely a very small few exceptions like KoTH or Futurama, but in general those types of shows just weren’t made for people like me.

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    I’ve never seen a feed of this that doesn’t have the profanity censored out. Is it just always sanitized or am I just not finding the adult version?

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      I think OP is so sensitive to the profanity that even bleeped is too much.

      And my god is T’Ana hilarious. I mean come on. The whole joke is the bleeping and the fact that she’s literally the only person in all of Star Trek that constantly swears.

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    Sorry you can’t enjoy something if you think it’s childish. Your life must be awful.

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    Dude, TAS was set on the flagship of the fleet, LD is set on a B grade tow truck.

    They are not the same

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    I think you might be in a minority on your dislike of Lower Decks.

    Also, violence has always been part of Star Trek and if you don’t like profanity, you are posting in the wrong fucking place.

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    I guess the secondary directive of the Federation is to gatekeep having fun?

    Animation isn’t for children by default. Only boring, unimaginative people talk that way about animated stories.

    Star Trek has always had violence.

    Star Trek has often had profanity. In another alien language sure, but we all knew which Klingon words were curses.

    Does sophomoric humor graduate to senior humor when it’s subtle enough that you didn’t catch it as a child? Humor is SUPER subjective and VERY sensitive to the current zeitgeist, so comparing humor across a franchise that has been around this long seems a little absurd. Data pushed Crusher into the ocean for a laugh, that seems pretty sophomoric to me. Bones regularly joked about Spock’s racial differences, that also seems pretty crude by today’s standards.

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      Animation isn’t for children by default.

      In fact, early animation was not even thought of to appeal to a particular age group. It was just a fun thing to do with movies that you couldn’t do with live action. And people who did comic strips in newspapers, never intended to be just for kids, were hired to make them.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertie_the_Dinosaur

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    No one misinterpreted your original post. It was sarcastic and dismissive, so people responded with that same energy.

    As to the edit, I think it’s good that the new Trek shows each have such distinct personalities. They won’t all appeal to everyone, but the overall diversity is a strength. Part of what killed Star Trek in the 2000s was that TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise had all stuck to a very consistent approach. After close to twenty years, it was inevitably feeling a bit stale.

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      It was sarcastic and dismissive

      So, yes, you misinterpreted it. Maybe that is how it came off to you, but that was not my intent. Whoops! I tried to find a Lower Decks gif that best portrayed “disappointment” without also portraying anything like “disgust”.

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    Ah, you added context. I fail to see however how you think your title was meant to convey “I thought it would be standard Star Trek, but animated so I was disappointed because my expectation was different”.

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      I don’t think it’s anything like Final Space apart from them both taking place in space. I also don’t think they’re all that similar in design, but if you want to say the design was stolen, they both resemble Seth MacFarlane shows in design.

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        seth did some great star wars movies. absolutely. this star trek crime on the other hand stole and killed the humor, graphic style etc from final space. read the creators comments on that maybe. so fuck this show. i even deleted tng from my tv show archive.

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          You deleted a show made decades before Lower Decks, made by people totally uninvolved with Lower Decks, because of Lower Decks?

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              Well that’s very silly. Measure of a Man or Darmok are the same episodes now as they were then. Nothing has changed about them. It’s like saying the entire franchise is dead to you because Nemesis was horrible. As if that somehow undoes everything that came before it and might come after it.

              You’re like one of those “the movie ruined my childhood!” people when a remake of something comes out and they didn’t like it. No it didn’t, you were an adult when you saw it.

              In other words-

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                dude, sometimes companies start really nice. like google maybe. and then over time they love money so much that they die inside. zenith passed. i also stopped using facebook. the the star trek franchise is dead. star trek discovery is also over…that was shit too.

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                  you’re right; that’ll teach them! delete your pirated copy of tng to teach ‘em a lesson

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      You’re overgeneralizing. Final Space is just one of a category of adult animated shows with that style, starting with Brickleberry (which for the record is pretty shit and not worth watching).

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        no. tosh os brickle …havent even seen it. but you say that was the first “space cartoon/animation with modern humor”?

        brickleberry looks like its done with Adobe Animate while FinalSpace looks better than the theft star trek did. color grading? huh…also i do not see your fanboy speech: brickle has a different color grading, star trek just stole it from final space. you are basicaly consuming AI slop and now tell everyone it is tasty. sorry man, but you are consuming shit and with that action you lower the future quality of animation and then will have to eat more shit.