You mean to tell me a technologically fresh and relevant field has popped onto the market and it’s leading to a massive increase in consumption of electricity, because it consumes electricity? Yeah, that sounds like industry to me.
Yes, and because it’s causing a massive increase in the consumption of electricity it’s causing lots of pollution.
BTW, recommend looking into the electrical infrastructure for china, they consume WAY more electricity than the US, and have vastly dirtier production. So if we’re going to complain about AI, go complain about chinese AI training instead.
Yes, and because it’s causing a massive increase in the consumption of electricity it’s causing lots of pollution.
again this is great, but can i have concrete numbers on this shit and not just some schizo ramblings telling me it’s “more than a city actually”
fun fact, if you google list of US cities, you’ll find there are about 300 of them. so using the same level of information you provided in your previous comment i can determine that AI power consumption, must be 1/300th and just a little bit more than that, of a national US city power consumption metric, this is ignoring most industry, and most rural consumption as well.
wow an irrelevant article on an irrelevant topic, sure do remember typing “china has really shitty air quality AS A RESULT OF ALL THE POWER CONSUMPTION AND PRODUCTION THEY HAVE” too bad i didn’t explicitly type:
BTW, recommend looking into the electrical infrastructure for china, they consume WAY more electricity than the US, and have vastly dirtier production. So if we’re going to complain about AI, go complain about chinese AI training instead.
instead, explicitly not mentioning the pollution issues associated with it.
looks like the US is consuming about 20% of all production from coal fired power production.
And it looks like china is consuming about 60% of all production from coal fired power production.
again this is great, but can i have concrete numbers on this shit and not just some schizo ramblings telling me it’s “more than a city actually”
In the article it directly tells you "the facilities could increasingly demand a gigawatt or more of power — one billion watts — or about twice the residential electricity consumption of the Pittsburgh area last year.
fun fact, if you google list of US cities, you’ll find there are about 300 of them. so using the same level of information you provided in your previous comment i can determine that AI power consumption, must be 1/300th and just a little bit more than that, of a national US city power consumption metric, this is ignoring most industry, and most rural consumption as well.
I provided a link. Did you not see it?
wow an irrelevant article on an irrelevant topic, sure do remember typing “china has really shitty air quality AS A RESULT OF ALL THE POWER CONSUMPTION AND PRODUCTION THEY HAVE” too bad i didn’t explicitly type:
Why are you talking to me this way? 🤔
oh wow, look at that, china consumes almost twice as much energy as the US.
Yeah, because we outsourced our industry to them. They consume that electricity making stuff for us. It’s all for external consumption. It’s real easy to reduce electricity consumption when you shut down your manufacturing capacity lol
oh wow, if you look at the total percent, china blows literally every other country out of the water.
Again, they make everything for everyone else. They’re the world’s factory. Just because a widget is manufactured in China doesn’t actually mean China is the sole country responsible for the emissions from manufacturing the widget. If they make a solar panel and then that solar panel is used in the US, there’s this neat little carbon accounting trick the US can do where it says that it reduced carbon emissions while not accounting for the carbon emitted from actually making the solar panel.
looks like the US is consuming about 20% of all production from coal fired power production. And it looks like china is consuming about 60% of all production from coal fired power production.
China has to keep increasing its base load of energy production to produce all of our shit for us. They’re kind of forced into this “all of the above” energy production system because they don’t have the capacity to actually transition.
Yet even so, new energy production capacity is not coming from coal. Why are we talking about this anyway? We were talking about how AI is consuming lots of energy, what the fuck does China have to do with it? China makes useful stuff with the energy they consume! AI makes bad art, bad articles, bad videos, bad music, and bad customer service bots. It’s garbage.
Yes, and because it’s causing a massive increase in the consumption of electricity it’s causing lots of pollution.
https://epic.uchicago.edu/insights/chinas-air-quality-policies-have-swifty-reduced-pollution-improved-life-expectancy/
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again this is great, but can i have concrete numbers on this shit and not just some schizo ramblings telling me it’s “more than a city actually”
fun fact, if you google list of US cities, you’ll find there are about 300 of them. so using the same level of information you provided in your previous comment i can determine that AI power consumption, must be 1/300th and just a little bit more than that, of a national US city power consumption metric, this is ignoring most industry, and most rural consumption as well.
wow an irrelevant article on an irrelevant topic, sure do remember typing “china has really shitty air quality AS A RESULT OF ALL THE POWER CONSUMPTION AND PRODUCTION THEY HAVE” too bad i didn’t explicitly type:
instead, explicitly not mentioning the pollution issues associated with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_consumption
oh wow, look at that, china consumes almost twice as much energy as the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
oh wow, if you look at the total percent, china blows literally every other country out of the water.
now lets have a look at power production stats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States#Electricity_generation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_China
looks like the US is consuming about 20% of all production from coal fired power production. And it looks like china is consuming about 60% of all production from coal fired power production.
In the article it directly tells you "the facilities could increasingly demand a gigawatt or more of power — one billion watts — or about twice the residential electricity consumption of the Pittsburgh area last year.
I provided a link. Did you not see it?
Why are you talking to me this way? 🤔
Yeah, because we outsourced our industry to them. They consume that electricity making stuff for us. It’s all for external consumption. It’s real easy to reduce electricity consumption when you shut down your manufacturing capacity lol
Again, they make everything for everyone else. They’re the world’s factory. Just because a widget is manufactured in China doesn’t actually mean China is the sole country responsible for the emissions from manufacturing the widget. If they make a solar panel and then that solar panel is used in the US, there’s this neat little carbon accounting trick the US can do where it says that it reduced carbon emissions while not accounting for the carbon emitted from actually making the solar panel.
China has to keep increasing its base load of energy production to produce all of our shit for us. They’re kind of forced into this “all of the above” energy production system because they don’t have the capacity to actually transition.
Yet even so, new energy production capacity is not coming from coal. Why are we talking about this anyway? We were talking about how AI is consuming lots of energy, what the fuck does China have to do with it? China makes useful stuff with the energy they consume! AI makes bad art, bad articles, bad videos, bad music, and bad customer service bots. It’s garbage.
AI is just burning energy for nothing.