• naun@lemmy.world
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      The worst part is that they really didn’t, they just didn’t know that they didn’t. They won’t realize for a while (until it affects them personally). Some never will.

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    […] psychedelics […]

    I’m glad that it seems like the war on drugs is showing cracks. I completely support a move to legalize psychedelics.

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        The carrot got dangled in front of the US population for decades and now it’s going to be handed out by the guy holding a knife in his other hand.

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      Yes, but it shouldn’t be legalized for the wrong reasons. We used to justify legalization using arguments about personal freedom for recreational use and pushing for more rigorous research into the therapeutic use cases. Now its popularity in the population is just used to push a pseudo-scientific and anti-science agenda.

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        I mean there’s already quite some research with psychedelics showing positive results. Expecting RFK to act on facts and science is wishful thinking. We can just be thankful that his twisted mind aligns with science at least in this position.

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        Yes, but it shouldn’t be legalized for the wrong reasons.

        This is kind of an interesting thought, imo. If one agrees with the resultant policy, does the rationale used to get there matter? Perhaps it does in principle, but I wonder if it matters in practice. The end result is the same.

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          I think the implications here is that the reasons it gets legalized can have an impact on the specifics of the policy. Which would mean that they wouldn’t agree with the policy beyond the legalization itself.

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            I think the implications here is that the reasons it gets legalized can have an impact on the specifics of the policy.

            Could you elaborate on what you mean?

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              If the brain worms tell RFK Jr. That psychedelics are actually a cancer cure, then legislation could be put forth to legalize psychedelics. But rather than allowing recreational use, or using them for a medical purpose based on scientific fact such as use in conjunction with therapy to treat depression, it could be legalized as prescribed medication for cancer. This has the drawbacks of not allowing access to people that could actually benefit from it, as well as now being used as a snake oil cure for something completely unrelated that will prevent people from getting other more effective treatment.

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          If the end result is that psychedelics get used as an excuse to take power away from the FDA, then everybody’s safety gets compromised in all areas of healthcare.

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          It does not matter morally, but does rhetorically and politically. The result of neglecting the latter is your rhetoric can be abused, see OP

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    True story, I went to my doctor about losing some weight as I was close to getting diabetes. For some reason, my doctor loudly proclaimed “Here is a prescription for some meds” while handing me the prescription.

    It wasn’t a prescription for meds. My doctor wrote “Due to Big Pharma and the FDA listening in, I have to prescribed various meds. You really should eat healthy diet that has a healthy amount of calories made up of vegetables and fruit. I needed get exercise and should spend time outside to help everything.”

    Big Pharma is everywhere! /s

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    […] ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine […]

    I’ll be honest, I don’t really understand this one. I’d guess that this is likely some hold over grudge from COVID, but I don’t really understand why it’s still a concern to get, presumably, more open access to those drugs. Aren’t we long past that conversation? Feels like beating a dead horse.

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    […] raw milk […]

    I’d support this so long as the manufacturers of said raw milk could be held to account for harm caused to a consumer who purchased it under the belief that it was safe — likely, this would also mean that, if it isn’t safe, the product containing raw milk must otherwise display explicit warnings. I think a person should be allowed to take take their own risks.

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      And parents are held responsible if they give it to kids

      Insurance should also not need to cover sickness caused by it

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        Insurance should cover everyone for everything and should remain affordable for all.

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            What if a child were given raw milk by their parents? Should a child be forced to pay for their parents’ decisions, potentially with their life?

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              Look up. That’s why I said parents should be held responsible for serving it to kids

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            What is it with this americans aversion for raw milk, it’s not like you’ll fall down dead if you drink it.

            Do you also burn your salmon and cook your meat?

            In france there are lots of cheese (no really?) and many are forbidden for import to the USA because of stuff like raw milk. Guess that’s why we have the watch coming by getting all the dead babies every tuesday.

            Maybe I’m missing something, please do enlighten me!

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            I also think insurance shouldn’t cover cancer treatment for smokers. Or diabetes treatment for overweight people. Or broken bones for skiers. Or literally anything for anyone who has ever done anything bad for them. /s

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              Why shouldn’t they be able to sue cigarette companies or companies releasing unsafe products?

              Why should my insurance be higher whilst cigarette companies are benefiting off their shit marketing

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    Honestly, Stem Cells becoming more available is cool. I don’t expect his christian overlords to allow it, but it’s a cool thought.

    I just hope none of his other snake oils end up in products for the general population. If it just killed off willing idiots then womp womp, they get what they voted for, but public health risks are rarely so discriminatory.

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      One the one hand, yes, I expect there to be internal pushback on this one. On the other hand, the HHS Secretary reports directly to the least Christian man in America.

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        But the supreme authority in this case is the senate. If the Trump Admin steps too out of line the senate can remove the secretaries, federal judges, and/or the president themself with 60 votes, which would be as easy as 45 DNC, 2 IND, and 13 GOP.

        In fact, Trump was forced into signing steel tariffs / sanctions against Russia when he initially refused to sign S.722 in 2017.

        Seems like a lot of the sources on that debacle have been lost to the pile of Russia and Trump ties, but I remember it very clearly.

        Christians acting evil starts to make sense if you consider god was never on any of our sides.

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    Speaking of raw milk, bird flu has just been disovered in it. Buckle up, the next pandemic is coming. Maybe it will go down in history as the MAGA flu. Or Trumps.

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      Ok, but have you had raw milk Camembert? That’s probably the one thing from the list where you guys should be more lax.

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        Raw milk for cheese isn’t quite as big of deal as enthusiasts make it out to be. It’s more the homogenization process that destroys milk for cheese than pasteurization. I’ve had alot of success mixing pasteurized skim milk and pasteurized heavy Cream to the ratio I want to make various cheeses. Using Homogenized milk though nearly always failed or gave extremely low yields for me though.

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        In fairness, cheese from france is probably safer raw because they don’t have as many superfarms that are as prone to spreading diseases like bird flu

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          There’s also the fact that they take steps to hinder bad bacteria. While nurturing the good bacteria that makes their cheese. It’s not like they just throw raw milk into a vat and pull out cheese.