my reasoning: the actual colors we can see -> the wavelengths that we can extrapolate to -> basically extrapolated wavelengths plus an ‘unpure-ness’ factor -> not even real wavelengths (ok well king blue and maybe lavender if I’m being generous could be)

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
    14·
    9 days ago

    Imagine taking about colors without the technique by which they are produced.

    Also, did you just call black a real color when you are talking about wavelengths?

    The problem with your statement is (not) fully understanding how our brains work at interpreting colors.

    You mentioned yellow in this thread - our brains (not our eyes) see two different colors that they device to interpret as yellow, which is different to seeking a true yellow wavelength.

    More of an everyday example of that is “white” (found under your mental illnesses) - you can buy cheap light bulbs that cover a smaller fraction of the light spectrum or better ones with high CRI numbers (“photographers lights”). I recently installed them in my parents house & they are amazed.

    The other thing is we never ever see just one exact wavelength in nature, we have to mix and interpret all of them in other to make quick decisions & survive.

    Evolutionary in our own line the red ones was the last addition, presumably to pick the red fruit quicker.

    Also when you mention monitors (that emit light), they do all kinds of fuckery like pixel dithering where you mix two “colors” shown by the same subpixel (or two) but in a rapid succession.

    • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      12·
      9 days ago

      I called black a real color because if we see black, we know for certain there’s actually no light.

      And yes I know all that other stuff.

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
        2·
        9 days ago

        I called black a real color because if we see black, we know for certain

        But how can you tell when you see cyan, if it’s actually cyan wavelength or a combination of two completely separate wavelengths that your brain just averages into ‘light blue’ or whatever?

        • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          1·
          9 days ago

          yea I know thats why I called it a slippery slope, because if you know for certain that there’s only one wavelength in the scene then you could tell its cyan, but if it could be any spectrum then you would have no idea

            • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              1·
              9 days ago

              IDK, I can’t tell from looking at the 2015 CIE CMFs (I think these are the most accurate? also I used the firefox plugin “unpaywall” to see them as sci-hub wasn’t working) if there are any completely identifiable red colors or not. I initially assumed there were, but I guess I don’t really know (I had assumed any perceived color could be made from a standard red green and blue, but now I also don’t know if that’s true).

              edit: if that assumption is true than there would be no way to produce photons of different wavelengths in a way that looks like a fully saturated red

              also the falloff at the end of the spectrum might mess with that a little, it looks like there is a continuously varying ratio of red to green along the end of the spectrum, but I can’t really tell

              edit2: it also varies somewhat with age and among individuals apparently, so that might complicate things further