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The US University experience
Makes me very sad because of course brain drain is inevitable under the circumstances, but selfishly I worry for my families future without them. We can’t afford to get out. Many of us didn’t have the opportunities to become someone who could leave the country in any capacity, let alone now. Just…please if you’re considering this, remember who you’re leaving behind that aren’t the Trump sycophants. I know it’s not your job to fix anything. But if you’re moving to some place because it’s more equitable, I would find it extremely hypocritical that you would be contributing to inequality yourself by doing so.
I don’t get it. The US didn’t go and fire a bunch of women professors, we still have many women professors. The comment in the image makes no sense to me, its jumping.
Do you honestly not get it, or are you just trying to push back against a message you don’t like?
sounds likes he baiting people.
I don’t get it. The US has many women professors, not just associate and assistant professors. The comment implies that Finland is saying the US is no longer having women as professors. What am I missing?
What am I missing?
You’re missing the fact that currently in many states in the US, a Tesla has more civil rights than a woman, and it’s bullshit.
Also ignoring the removal of inclusion programs, and a number of other things wrong with the US in recent past that you would almost certainly be aware of unless you’re living in a cave in the wilderness with no internet connection. Which I doubt, since you’re posting here.
I’m pretty sure there is not one single professor that is a Tesla, so I don’t know what that comment was about.
What civil right does a woman not have? Honest question.
I’m in.
Estonian here, first Yank* scientist on Lemmy to come work at University of Tartu gets a beer on me. Note that when I say “come work at” I mean I live in the city, not that I work at the university too. I dropped out after a semester and a half lol
* Yank refers to the entire USA here, though younger generations don’t use it much. You could be from Texas or California and still be a Yankee.
I love Tartu, but last I heard, the pay and funding sucked. How is it now?
Same in Finland: a Californian or a Hawaiian is a Yankee (in Finnish: jenkki) here.
Loadsa Yanks in Edinburgh
Emotional, fucking, damage.
Why would Americans feel emotional damage from this? They have freedom to be Christian, and self reliant, and proud.
Come to Australia! If you’re on the west coast of America, it’s not even that ridiculous a journey. It’s quite like America in lots of good ways, and less so in the insane, gun-toting ways. (Lots of idiot-trucks still, though 😞)
they only want scientists(phds) in many countries outside of us(i know there are alot there are struggling after just thier initial undergrad and even thier masters)(struggling as in the job prospects for biotech is quite a bit poor for those who are not eligible for grad school, or need experience)
You guys are gutting funding, unfortunately.
Yeah brain drain isn’t as cool when it happens here, is it?
It is not secret that the US has attracted talented academics for many years. I am sure that these kinds of advertisements are not new.
Yeah with money
Yes. People conducting cutting-edge research should receive suitable compensation. Don’t see a problem with that.
& then that research gets gatekept by said country, do you agree to that
I wasn’t aware that publishing peer-reviewed work for anybody to read was “gatekeeping”.
I said countries (as in governments & corporations)
Yes move to Europe with stagnant economies and 60% tax rates. There are evident reasons why the EU isnt competitive, it’s not a secret.
I live better and more cheaply here than I did in the US, to each their own.
America is a shithole that treats their workers like shit overall. I would love to be able to move to Europe.
There is great opportunity in America. People all over the world still want to come here for a chance to compete. Bow down before the great Eagle, cawcaw!! Sure we have our problems but I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. The border to leave stays open btw.
I’d say we do pretty well and STILL have affordable healthcare. But I’m sure potholes and a few extra billionaires are worth the tradeoff.
And long ass vacations. I’m in.
Long ass vacays is true, I’ll give you that one.
This thread gives me hope. Last Trump presidency Marcon told scientists to move to France. I was like… I hear you. Added 56 credit hours of math and science to my writing degree. Now I’m ready to do bioinformatics or something health data related not in the US.
This feels sad on the surface, as an American who went to college 25 years ago and is used to seeing people from around the world move here to learn, teach, start businesses, etc.
But giving it any real thought, damn it, it is much better for humanity this way. Climate change isn’t going to pause while the world watches us collapse.
We have quite a shortage of doctors and other medical professionals in Slovenija. Come on over, guys!
ETA: and professors to teach at the medical university.
How much is med school there and are older people welcomed into the schools? I had to drop my premed program here in the US because I either need to be a med student for rural America … which can get fucked imo or pay a million to stay in “progressive” cities.
Oof, I don’t know about that. It’s very difficult even for regular students from other EU countries to get in. There are so few spots opened that they are very strict with the criteria plus domestic students are preferred.
Most countries welcome medical professionals with open arms. They are always shortlisted. ;)
PS: I love Slovenija, it is so pretty. I reccomend it too!
This is amazing for us in Europe, bring all the educated ones and leave the Trumpers there
Fully onboard with this, welcome to Spain amigo.
Pity they leave the nukes there, for a bunch of rabid capitalist morons
well to some of us americans, who can’t leave, this is horrible… but logical….
the last thing i want is all the reasonable people to leave, and be stuck with these fuxks….i kinda wonder now, how much did people fleeing nazi germany contributed to them solidifying power?
I mean I imagine most people leaving would still keep American citizenship and therefore still be able to vote. Unless they decide to end their citizenship which some might but I imagine most people would still want to keep that option open.
It’s kinda funny, this is what Texas did to Oklahoma in regards to our teachers. Put up billboards saying that they paid more in Texas. It’s depressing but it worked lol.
oklahoma wasn’t great before that, but at least it was OK…
Take this up vote and GO
The world is looking to China too, their sciences are blossoming. Exciting times ahead while Americans decide who they are and want to be and eventually go through their own Enlightenment. Things are bad now, but tyrants always fall eventually. I think we are entering a sort of golden age for science.
