The Firefox ToC discussion pushed me down the browser engine rabbit hole (again). Have you had a chance to daily drive some really good but obscure web engine that is not Gecko (Firefox), WebKit (Apple) and Blink (Chromium)? How viable is it for a complete switch - this includes banking, chatting, logging into websites, etc.
Edit: Added link to the Firefox discussion to give better context to my question.
I’m going to stick with some form of Firefox fork, personally. Chromium forks are questionable, as if I recall right they include a binary blob provided by google, which could be hiding god knows what.
Firefox is fully open source, so any code supporting this potential data harvesting can’t hide, and will be removed by most forks.
I used librewolf until there was some concern about them updating in a timely manner.
Now I used Firefox with Phoenix to maybe get the best of both worlds and IronFox on mobile.
with the recent news of a ToS from FF which forks would you recommend as a daily driver to replace FF?
Librewolf has been solid for me. I’ve seen others plug waterfox as well
Mullvad Browser is a good one; it’s a partnership between Mullvad and the Tor Project.
I don’t think there are any viable engines other than the three you mention. Other browsers than the three you mention are viable, I am typing this in LibreWolf, but they are all based on one of these three engines.
I recently tried Ladybird and it crashes e.g. when I try to access my Lemmy instance. Definitely not viable yet in 2025, but this doesn’t mean it must remain so.
I’m trying out waterfox for mobile and librewolf for desktop. No complaints so far
Just don’t try to schedule a video for publication in LibreWolf; its time zone obfuscation will totally have it publish at an unexpected time unless you figure that out first! I’ve been on Waterfox for both mobile and desktop and have enjoyed them equally.
where did you get Waterfox on Android? The Playstore or F droid?
Used F-Droid to download aurora store (open source client for the play store) and used Aurora for waterfox…
What’s the Firefox ToC discussion you mention?
It is their data now boy
Reminds me to check out lynx again.
Is Arc considered obscure?
On one of my OSes, I still use Brave.
Brave is a series scam company.
If you need or want to use a Chromium browser, Brave seems to be the best, at least according to https://privacytests.org/.
Yeah; unfortunately on that particular computer, it’s the only modern browser that still functions. I don’t trust it with anything.
If the question had been “what trustworthy browsers do you use?” I wouldn’t have mentioned it.
No real data to backup this claim other than complaints about their addons which can be disabled, and their CEO doesn’t have the best morals and principles. Like we all believe the exact same things everyday all day.
Multiple highly reputable non profits and other sources show the browser itself performs as one of the best when it comes to privacy. Leave the negativity against Nestle.
holy shit fearless freep
Articfox librewolf
I use qutebrowser, it’s a keyboard driven browser that uses QtWebEngine (based on Chromium).
I’ve been using Orion on iOS for a while. It’s not bad.
They are porting to Linux was just announced not long ago… however dont know how long that will take. I am just gonna keep using FF until I can try Orion.
Fennec (Firefox based)
Internet Explorer 11
(just kidding)
Zen
Cromite. it is a very good and private, easy to use browser, but can be heavy on resources https://github.com/uazo/cromite. It uses Chromium engine. There are browsers like Ladybug and there is also an another project that use their own web engine, but anything that doesn’t use the engines you mentoioned, is impossible to daily drive, most of them doesn’t evem support javascript, or any script execution, which means you can only browse the most basic blogs, and forget about shopping, social media, and even forums
I’m really hoping the new ladybird browser is delivered sooner than expected
