I know I have small hands but c’mon. Flagship phones these days are strait up small tablets, not even what we’d have called on phablets 15 years ago.
I know it’s what people buy, but I’m still sad that if I want a phone that small then I have to deal with camera and display a couple gens old
As you add more compute per user interaction (“smart” features), you increase power consumption. To keep an 18hour discharge cycle, you have to have more battery. Since phone thickness is a negative marketing feature but increased screen size is a positive marketing feature, you end up with bigger phones.
Every time they reduce compute power consumption, feature inflation overtakes the gain and more power is needed over time. Try turning on battery saver in the morning… even with “normal” use the battery will last significantly longer due to disabling background power consumption.
Those were the days
I would vomit if I had to look at the Windows logo every time I pulled out my phone. Google is not perfect and they’ve made mistakes with Android, but at least it’s Open Source. Microsoft has a much worse record of opposing Open Source initiatives…
Windows phone had a lot of potential
This was nearly 20 years ago, Microsoft was annoying but fairly benign at the time. This phone with Windows Mobile 6 was released alongside the first release of android and the first iPhone
You’re right, they haven’t been this overt since the 2000’s. But their flagship OS is still closed-source and forces ads and unpopular privacy violating features like Recall to this day…
I literally gasped. iPAQ510, my beloved
Flagship means the best of the best, of course it’s gonna be large and fancy lmfao.
There’s plenty of phones that fit your niche, but it’s like expecting a cigar boat to be the flagship of the navy dude lol. Gotta temper yourself to realistic expectations, especially when the term “flagship” is thrown out.
Best doesn’t have to mean biggest.
I want all the fanciest best shit, and I want it to actually fit in my hand
So you don’t want a flagship, you want a small compact phone with all the fixings. That would no longer be the flagship anymore by using established conventions.
Flagship has specific meanings and you’re ignoring them to bitch and moan.
Lol everyone disagrees with you about what the conventional meaning is. It sounds a lot like you’re the one who is ignoring definitions to bitch and moan 👋
??? Multiple people have told you the same thing……
Sounds like you don’t want to admit that you fucked up.
It sounds a lot like you’re the one who is ignoring definitions to bitch and moan 👋
Well sounds is a lot different than being factually incorrect and obtuse like you….
Lol you made up an argument, pretended I said it, and got mad when I corrected you.
You can bring a mule to the comment section, but you can’t make him read the thread.
This makes no sense. Large doesn’t mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.
The minimal company’s flagship phone is a minimal phone. It’s their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.
OP wants more flagship phones, that is the type of phone the company markets as its main phone, to be smaller. It has little to do with the best but how phones are used. So tell him “tough luck because most people use their phones as a TV so they will remain big”. It’s not because that’s a better phone.
This makes no sense. Large doesn’t mean fancy. Back in the day, making the phone smaller was fancy.
Which has nothing to do with the the historical term and already established convention of the term “flagship”, no one has ever called their compact phone a flagship, got any proof to back that asinine claim up?
The minimal company’s flagship phone is a minimal phone. It’s their signature phone. The flagship was the ship that had the ranking officer/admiral on it, representing the fleet. Apple, google etc all decided their flagship phone would be huge.
If it’s not the fanciest and most expensive, then by definition and original convention, it’s no longer a flagship phone.
Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions… a small phone will never by definition eve be considered a flagship, but bloviate if you want.
Terms have specific uses, let’s not dilute them to make ourselves feel better. Language IS fluid, but when people are obstinate to already preestablished conventions
Ok there why didn’t you bother opening a dictionary or googling it.
noun
the ship in a fleet which carries the commanding admiral.
the best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization.
He’s just saying most phones companies (of all sizes) making are big phones. Get over yourself
More specifically, it’s typically the vessel the admiral commands from, not just their one he happens to be on.
So the smallest and worst ship would be the flagship? That’s the defence? Lmfao because that makes total sense dude…. And how is that supposed to defend what a flagship is?
How does that mean the smallest and most compact? As my original comment stated, that’s like claiming a cigar boat is the flagship, which no navy would do even if they were making smaller boats. Their largest and fanciest, would STILL be the flagship of the fleet….
I “did read a dictionary”, which is maybe why I’m speaking? OP fucked up what a flagship is meant to be. Atleast I’m not the one making up new definitions to defend my asinine defence. How does the definition support your argument? It would STILL mean the best and most resourceful unit. Which wouldn’t be the smallest……
the finest, largest, or most important one of a group of things (such as products, stores, etc.) —often used before another noun
Other definitions include “largest” why did you include the one that doesn’t…?
is the lead ship in a fleet of vessels, typically the first, largest, fastest, most heavily armed, or best known.
Which how is that the smallest and most compact…? That’s literally contradicting the established conventions dude lmfao. But again, bloviate about how you don’t understand language and want to make it what you want I guess…. Flagship has established conventions, and OP is asking for the opposite. Full stop.
You aren’t wrong, and I’m not sure why the other person is arguing with you. Seems like that Monty Python sketch about arguing.
He is wrong.
I’m asking for small flagships.
They used to make small flagships.Flagship doesn’t mean biggest, it means best.
If settle for a small non-flagship phone with a flagship camera pod and display tech. But they don’t make those either.
They used to make small flagships.
When??? You keep saying that, but flagships have always been large and fancy and never small and fancy. Can you provide an example? Because what it seems from every explanation you’ve made in this thread, you just don’t know what the term flagship means…
Sounds like you just need to learn words properly, the only one wrong here is you using an established term incorrectly and are conflating a small phone as a “flagship” which has NEVER been the case. Please provide an example of a flagship being small and compact, I would love to see how you came to fuck this well established term up so horrendously.
Each fleet has its flagship lol all companies have flagships. Yes the best phone of each company is their flagship. Flagship phones isn’t limited to some arbitrary sized companies.
And no phone manufacturer has ever called their small phones their flagships, so for to OP to say they miss them, is them not actually knowing what the term is.
Can you provide an example of a phone that fits OPs definition as being sold as a “flagship”? Because OPs arguing for something that’s never been done before.
Flagships CAN be small, but it’s never been done in history before, still waiting for an example, I’ve asked twice now. Because OPs barking up the wrong tree. That’s the issue here.
You’re making this argument, while not providing anything to support it, I’ve even asked for a source to prove your point, all you’ve done is provide a definition that i then provided multiple that directly contradict the one you provided.
Flagship phones isn’t limited to some arbitrary sized companies.
In the history of the term, it’s never been a cigar boat dude…. It’s always the largest and fanciest, not the smallest and fanciest. Prove it dude. Step up or fuck off.
Minimal company’s flagship phone is the minimal phone
Lol who said I wanted “the smallest and most compact”
You’ve lost the plot here, take the L
Does “fit in your hand” not mean small and compact?
I’m not the one using the term flagship to mean a non flagship phone. You’re trying to change established definitions and conventions.
You want a fancy small phone, no phone manufacturer has ever called a phone that fits that description as a “flagship” so to say you miss the. Is just straight up bullshit and you being an idiot and not using established definitions correctly.
Not only is that laughably not true
But even if it was true, it wouldn’t mean anything because being a flagship phone isn’t about size, it’s about showing off your tech.
But like I said, I don’t have to get hypothetical, because phones this big weren’t considered flagships in the past, they were considered “notes” and “tabs”
Not that it’s everyday practical, but you can definitely get small phones. There are definitely lesser known names out there that make phones in all sizes.
And there’s still room for a headphone jack.
It’sa silly little thing, but manages to get like 5 days standby or 2-3 days light use.
I know they exist, but I specifically mentioned flagship phones because they have the best cameras and screens, and I take a lot of pictures
Why would you buy a flagship phone? It sounds like you want not that. And not that exists.
Because, like I said in the post, flagship phones have the best cameras, and I take a lot of pictures
Image sensor and optics quality drop off pretty quickly once you leave flagship territory.
I have the same problem and my latest was an asus zenfone after a ton of research. Its been pretty solid actually.
Zenfone was heavily promoted as a “small” phone but its larger than the base galaxy, despite having a smaller display
Unihertz specializes in small phones. They aren’t flagship spec but they are midrange at sensible prices. They also have keyboard phones and even a phone with a built in DMR radio for Amateur and GMRS use.
Not a plug, I don’t even own one I just love that they are daring to be different.
Chinese company and the phones use Mediatek chips, so no custom ROM support last I checked. Otherwise I would have been all over it.
every time i “upgrade” my phone it gets bigger, i hate it. the perfect size was what whatever iPhone 5 was doing, i want to go back to that
iPhone 12 or 13 mini is similar to that size
i don’t use iPhones anymore, that was the one time i tried them and aside from the size and some features i much prefer the openess of android
I’ve never owned an iPhone, and wouldn’t normally recommend them at all, but looks to me like its one of the only recent smartphones that is small 😞
Actually looking into it a bit more: there’s some smallish ones such as the Asus Zenphone 10 and foldables such as the Motorola Razr 50 Ultra.
https://www.tomsguide.com/best-picks/best-small-phones
https://m.gsmarena.com/best_compact_phones_buyers_guide-review-2029.php
But yeah they’re still not as small as the iPhone 5
iPhone 5 / original SE was a good design, and a good size, but it was also the first iPhone I had to buy a case for because it was so damn light and thin it was hard to handle compared to the thicker, glass-plated 4.
13 mini is pretty comparable
iPhone 4S is still the most perfect form for a smartphone I’ve ever owned
I loved my iPhone 5 more than any other device I’ve owned. Perfect size.
Oof this is the reason why I went with Fold. Basically when folded it takes almost the same area as an iPhone 5 albeit quite thicker. But my hand adjusted to the thickness quite nicely.
Having basically a small tablet when you unfold the phone for actual two handed use is good too.
Wider, longer, flatter, thinner, and harder to hold without touching shit at the edge of the screen. I miss being able to grip a phone by its buttons.
Companies trying to make foldable phones happen are going the wrong way.
They are making giant phones that unfold into tablets when really they should be making small phones that unfold into something just large enough you can watch Netflix on.
I believe foldable phone is “invented” by idiots who don’t know design and good products. Literally “if we put in advanced tech, people will buy it”, lol.
You mean like this? https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-z-flip6/
I think Motorola makes a much better flip phone in terms of experience overall. I also really like their software, however their track record on updates is less than stellar.
Hell yeah brotha! Right there with you.
You sound like you need the new Razr or the Z Flip
I feel like that doesn’t actually solve the problem
It literally fits in the palm of your hand and you can use it as a fully functioning device while closed, what do you mean?
I didn’t realize you had access to all the same features and cameras while closed.
Can I get that, but without unfolding? I didn’t need it to unfold, I just want it to be small
I love the idea of foldable phones but I cannot trust myself with something so fragile. I can hardly even take care of a traditional phone.
I’m lucky the Pixel 6 is as easy to repair as it is I’m on my third screen in like 2 years. Though I do kinda wish I did the 6a since it’s smaller.
You never heard of a phone case? It also comes with a pre installed screen protector.
Yes I have but they aren’t much help against an SUV
Why are you running your phones over?
It might be easy but I just bought another used 6 for the price of a new screen. Compared to what a screen on my 4a cost, its crazy to fix the 6.
I loved the idea of these foldable phones until I saw a Z Flip in real life, and it’s so damn huge when open, feels really uncomfortable to use. Was pretty disappointed :(
You have some duo lingo to finish up buddy
It’s true. Idk why people are down voting you
Dunno either it was just a joke, we all have duo to do!
This is why I get just the regular s24 or whatever, like the pixel 8a.
I dont like big phones.
Even that’s too big.
That’s a pixel 7 pro on the left, which is only a little bigger than the 7a. I want something way smaller
Skill issue /s
consumers in general wants bigger phone, market follow along
sadly, small phone is a niche now
There’s more to it than that. Big phones are more marketable and have better profit margins. It’s not all consumer preference. Kinda similar to cars actually
