Is anyone actually surprised by this?

    • quant@leminal.space
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      2 hours ago

      By extension, anything that’s not self hosted means 3rd party actors snooping. American, Chinese, whoever happens to operate that machine.

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    4 hours ago

    the company states that it may share user information to "comply with applicable law, legal process, or government requests.

    Literally every company’s privacy policy here in the US basically just says that too.

    Not only does DeepSeek collect “text or audio input, prompt, uploaded files, feedback, chat history, or other content that [the user] provide[s] to our model and Services,” but it also collects information from your device, including “device model, operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, and system language.”

    Breaking news, company with chatbot you send messages to uses and stores the messages you send, and also does what practically every other app does for demographic statistics gathering and optimizations.

    Companies with AI models like Google, Meta, and OpenAI collect similar troves of information, but their privacy policies do not mention collecting keystrokes. There’s also the added issue that DeepSeek sends your user data straight to Chinese servers.

    They didn’t use the word keystrokes, therefore they don’t collect them? Of course they collect keystrokes, how else would you type anything into these apps?

    In DeepSeek’s privacy policy, there’s no mention of the security of its servers. There’s nothing about whether data is encrypted, either stored or in transmission, and zero information about safeguards to prevent unauthorized access.

    This is the only thing that seems disturbing to me, compared to what we’d like to expect based on the context of what DeepSeek is. Of course, this was proven recently in practice to be terrible policy, so I assume they might shore up their defenses a bit.

    All the articles that talk about this as if it’s some big revelation just boil down to “company does exactly what every other big tech company does in America, except in China”

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      3 hours ago

      Collecting keystrokes is very different from collecting text inputted into fields. Keystroke rhythms is even more alarming as that is often used to identify users despite them using privacy settings, or used to collect what’s typed via audio collection.

      Your argument that this is no different than other apps is complete crap. Don’t trust any app that collects that information

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    5 hours ago

    Idk DeepSeek probably just stores things in the history of my Terminal window.

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    6 hours ago

    Did they become american company?

    Well, at least models are downloadable.

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      2 hours ago

      Get it all you can, nvidia’s already lobbying to make them a security risk, competition is bad for business.

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    11 hours ago

    Did the American technology giants think they had the monopoly on capturing human input too?

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    13 hours ago

    No I’m not surprised at all. This is necessary for any kind of auto save and auto complete. Not happy about my shit being stored in China, but “collects every keystroke” isn’t really news anymore.

    If you’re worried about this kind of behavior, don’t use any website with auto save or auto complete, period.

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    13 hours ago

    Yeah, uh… If you think that American companies aren’t doing this same thing and handing your data over to the government without a warrant among other bad uses, I have some bad news for you. This is pretty much par for the course, and I’m pretty sure that we’re witnessing a well financed negative media blitz happening to try and keep OpenAI from getting all of its spaghetti spilled. Watch for the government to try and ban deepseek for “national security” reasons soon.