Her father is suing.

She has a nut allergy and ate baklava? Because someone told her it didn’t have nuts in it? IT’S MADE OF NUTS!!! Did she eat it with her eyes closed?

She didn’t have an epi pen? She didn’t go to the school nurse? Checked out of school and took a walk instead? What? What?

I don’t have allergies, so someone please help me make sense of this. How could a seventeen year old with nut allergies eat baklava and head to CVS for some Benadryl afterwards?

Isn’t that an unusually bad series of decisions? Darwin Award level? I mean, if it wasn’t this, she might have died trying to dry her hair in the microwave.

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    I don’t have a nut allergy. I have seen baklava. I didn’t realize that the filling was nuts. It is not at all obvious to me visually.

    She was young and asked what it was and what was in it. Someone told her the incorrectly that it was made without nuts. She trusted the individual who did so.

    I believe there was a time when you first learned what baklava is. You are not born innately knowing. Considering she was only 17 and also living in the US, I don’t think it’s odd that she hadn’t heard of it or come across it yet.

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      If I had a nut allergy and picked up baklava, I would know not to eat it. It’s really obvious. What else could that be inside?

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        I’ve eaten a lot of baklava, and aside from tasting the walnuts and expecting they are an ingredient, I’d have had no idea. There is no crunchiness. It tastes like pastry and maple syrup, maybe brown sugar more than anything else.

        Now imagine you’ve never tasted walnuts because you can’t eat them. Are you sure you’d know what was inside?

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        That’s a lot of “if” statements that are being judgey of someone now dead. Be better.

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          Imagine what kind of life someone has, that they need to punch down on a dead child who trusted authority figures.

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        Believe it or not there are a lot of foods on the planet that can be made of a lot of different things. Someone literally told her that it wasn’t made of nuts when she took it, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility for her to think that it must be some other ingredient.

        Get off your high horse and stop jacking off to the unfortunate death of a literal child who was told the wrong thing.

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          It literally tastes like huts and honeyz because that’s 2 of the 3 ingredients. As soon as it touches your tongue it’s clear it’s made of nuts.

          Whether she was told something wrong or not, there’s no reason a 17 year old should be completely ignorant of their deadly allergy, and the steps to take in response. They’re basically an adult, we’re not talking about a little child here.

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            Do you think someone who has a “deadly allergy” knows what their allergen tastes like?

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              The people I know with nut allergies 100% know what other nuts taste like and are confident they can extrapolate to figure out if they’re given what they can’t have. They also all carry epi-pens because their nut allergies are severe. A couple have accidentally had that particular nut, usually that’s how they found out they were allergic in the first place. So maybe not all, but my personal sample size of 4 has a 100% rate of knowing what their issue is and how to identify it. And that’s not including acquaintances I don’t know personally but know stories from.

              • On top of that, a lot of lethal allergies are spontaneously developed. You’re walking around chowing down on peanuts until one day you puff up, turn red, and can’t breathe. Almost half the people with such allergies developed them in adulthood. The presence of food allergies doubles in late adolescence. There’s a very good chance at age 17 that she knows what nuts taste like.

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          Do you not understand how it must be? Imagine most everybody has no trouble with strychnine and consumes it casually. You, on the other hand, die from it.

          “Hey stranger, any strychnine in this?”

          “Nope.”

          “Om-nom-nom!”

          Not me! Or if I was gonna live like that, I’d SURE AS HELL have the antidote in my possession.

          Doesn’t seem strange to me at all. This blithely waltzing through landmines I’m hearing advocated seems, no pun intended, nuts.

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            Why is it so important for you for it to be her fault and only hers? If it’s so obvious that it’s made of nuts why would the person who gave it to her say it wasn’t? If it’s so stupid to leave that no rational human being would ever consider it why would the school let her do it?

            You’re talking about a minor. If it was so stupid for her to do this stuff, then every other person and adult involved was at least as stupid or worse.

            Like, yeah, if you have a life threatening allergy you should be appropriately cautious. Schools also should never have “just let them leave” to be anywhere near their list of medical emergency responses to begin with. And you shouldn’t feed someone with food allergies something if you aren’t positive what the ingredients are. Multiple people can do things wrong in a way that results in someone’s death.

            • It isn’t her fault at all, I agree. She was a teenager, and teenagers are quite literally ignorant. They lack the life experience necessary to make wiser choices.

              But where were the parents in all this? If I had a child with a life-threatening allergy, I GUARANTEE you that child would be carrying an epi-pen (or at least Benadryl if money is tight) 24×7. I’d also have a card made with strict steps to follow should there be accidental exposure, with instructions for my child on one side and instructions for third-parties on the other. (I’d also make damned sure that they learn to recognize chopped nuts in food where they’re highly visible! It’s ludicrous to look at a baklava and ask “are there nuts in this” when there’s very visible chopped nuts in them. Again the parents failed their daughter and she paid the price for it.)

              The parents, as far as I’m concerned, failed their daughter and are now trying to point fingers at the school board when it was their lackadaisical handling that led to their daughter’s death.