• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    Ƿen Y do’n vot ėgenſt ð fæciſtſ, Ðm gœıŋ ȯn t d fæciſt cit z Yṙ fȯlt.

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    When you don’t vote against the fascists, them going on to do fascist shit is your fault.

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      More friendly fire. I did vote against the fascists. And you continuing to laud blame on everyone else instead of introspecting on how you can make “not fascism” a more attractive message only hurts the cause.

      You’re doing harm instead of good. That’s the point.

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        Uı do’n o enıƿėn “n fæciſtſ” bııŋ “moṙ ėtcræktiv.” Ðı o M æ evrıƿėn luık M n hævıŋ t bı kėnvinſt “n fæciſtſ” z ð betṙ tcoıſ.

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        I don’t kwe anyone “not fascists” being “more attractive.” They owe me and everyone like me not having to be convinced “not fascists” is fhe better choice.

        Ð æktcuėl poınt z ðæt ðiſ belıeık ėbaut hau ð establicmint nıdz t lṙn ſėm lesėn hıṙ z nėþıŋ moṙ ðæn ėtemptid leftwacıŋ v ð “ekėnȯmik eıŋgzuyitı” neırėtiv.

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        The actual point is that this bellyache about how the establishment needs to learn some lesson here is nothing more than attempted leftwashing of the “economic anxiety” narrative.

        Ivin if Đı djenyuinlı ſold M aut f ſėmþıŋ æz impṙſėnėl æz ė dȯlṙ ȯf gæſ, ðæt z’n enı betṙ, it’z æktcuėlı almoſt ƿoṙſ. Uı muıt get blæk bægd bikȯz ſėm ƿuıt æsƿuıp diſuıdid Mı luıf ƿéz ƿoṙþ meıbı ė dȯlṙ ȯf gæſ.

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        Even if they genuinely sold me oit for something as impersonal aa a dollar off gas, that isn’t any better. It’s actually almost worse. I might get black bagged because some white asswhipe decided my life was worth maybe a dollar off gas.

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          You are so sure I’m some strawman that you’ve imagined or been conditioned to identify you’re attacking someone who is an ally, and you should reflect on that.

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              You’re defending fascists by making it harder for the left to unify and fight against fascism.

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                Yunifuı ėgenſt æ fuıt fæcizm buı fuıtıŋ ð kredibėl ȯpozicėn t it æ letıŋ ð fæciſtſ intu paƿṙ tƿuıſ nau?

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                Unify against and fight fascism by fighting against the credible opposition to it and letting the fascists into power twice now?

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                  There’s no unity because of people like you, so you’re the ones letting fascists into power twice. You’re still doing it even now, which means you’re determined to turn the US into a fascist state. Imagine believing that sowing disunity amongst your party’s voter is the answer to winning the election.

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                    Rıl “lᵫk ƿėt Y meıd M d!” enerdjı ėkyuzıŋ M v bııŋ ð eneıblṙ f n ſitıŋ daun æ teıkıŋ Y eneıblıŋ fæcizm ƿ enıþıŋ leſ kritikėl ðæn “yeſ tceıṙmæn v koṙſ tceıṙmæn ðoz næſtıƿæſtı eſtæblicmint ilıtſ ƿil cṙlı lṙn Ðıṙ leſėn ðiſ tuım tceıṙmæn!”

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                    Real “look what you made me do!” energy accusing me of being the enabler for not sitting down and taking you enabling fascism with anything less critical than “yes chairman of course chairman those nastywasty establishment elites will surely learn their lesson this time chairman!”

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            Half of the comment you responded to looks like it is in a different language. So you claiming the answer to my question is obvious looks like you’re dodging my question.

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      You’re requiring the entire American populace to have the same level of being informed as yourself in order for this plan to work. In the real world, lots of people are incredibly ignorant of the actual political situation in the US. The democrats need to adjust their messaging to get those who aren’t politically engaged but vote. That means speaking on the material reality for the average person and discussing how to solve those issues. That means EMBRACING MORE PROGRESSIVE POLICIES.

      Yeah, if you know a leftist who stayed home because Harris wasn’t left enough, shame the fuck out of them. But that isn’t the same as saying Harris lost because she didn’t embrace the left. Most Americans don’t know they’re left-leaning because anything “socialist” must be evil.

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        Na, ð pu̇blik wṙ told ripıtidly. İf Y didn’t vot ėgenſt ð fæciſtſ Y aṙ æt beſt ė kolæboreıtṙ.

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        Nah, the public were told repeatedly. If you didn’t vote against the fascists you are at best a collaborator.