• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    I ended up looking it up on Memory Alpha and they imply that it’s normally just a flavoring agent, but Seven and one alien both got drunk on it because they lacked the enzyme needed to break down the effects.

    I mean I like a nice alcoholic drink, but if I have replicators that can make me pretty much any drink in the explored galaxy, why would I constantly choose one with the flavor of alcohol but that wouldn’t get me drunk? You know, maybe there’s that one crewman who just had to have their non-alcoholic beer at the end of a shift, but they’re all slamming down synthehol (it’s with an e, not an a, which doesn’t work as well for me) drinks all the time.

    I also love that they seem to have no problem at all with stimulants that are far stronger than caffeine. You’d think raktajino was cocaine the way they compared it to coffee.

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      A lot of times, they only drink it while on duty. Other times they drink it all the time while on a ship… Somebody probably compiled it, but I don’t think the authors had any unified theory of why people drink it.

      But yeah, I remember many people saying it’s only a flavoring agent.

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      They’ve all programmed their replicator profiles to include “Ethanol, 22.5ml, Chilled” in all orders they place containing the word “synthehol”

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      I drink liquor because of the taste and mouthfeel. I usually stop at one dose because I don’t like getting tipsy or drunk. I’d absolutely love synthehol.

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      Imagine being a Scotsman trapped in a pattern buffer for decades and decades in order to survive, only to be rescued and told a proper drink is literally impossible now.

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        Okay, now I am even more confused. Because it seems that synthale is not the same thing…

        One variety of synthale was called Voodai. It was Major Kira’s favorite synthale. Quark gave her a bottle as a farewell present in early 2370, after she had previously remarked jokingly that her friends could help her “cry in her synthale”. (DS9: “The Circle”)

        Quark remarked to Arjin, that Julian Bashir was sitting in his bar every other day, “crying in his synthale” about Jadzia Dax. Similarly, Arjin tried to forget his worries with a large bottle of synthale, pretending to “see his future” in a full glass of the drink. Dax commented that she wouldn’t trust a bottle of synthale to tell the future. (DS9: “Playing God”)

        https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Synthale

        So I guess it does intoxicate you? And it’s also not something you replicate?

        And to make it even more confusing, there’s a whole other kind of synthale:

        https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Telluridan_synthale

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          According to Data, synthehol’s “intoxicating effects can be easily dismissed.” (TNG: “Relics”)

          This is what I always took to be the important part, and why they use it on Starfleet ships, even though normal alcohol is obviously common and enjoyed on Earth. It’s a safety concern. Rather than having all your crew rushing to take Sober-Up™ every time there’s a red alert, they drink synthehol, because they can shake it off themselves

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              I’ve always considered the lack of space drugs to be a network TV concession. Pike uses deadly parsley to cook, I’m sure there are some wild substances you can get on just about any station, and they’ve probably made it into an art form on Earth

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                They also still have characters like Raffi who ruin their lives with drugs. You’re telling me in the 24th century, you can create an entirely new spine for someone or make perfect clones or come up with a cure for an ancient disease in a week but you can’t cure basic drug addiction?

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                  She did? I thought she was just an off-grid hippie. I didn’t find Picard particularly memorable though

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                    Yeah, that was in the first season and why she stopped being Picard’s assistant. Then there was a callback to it in the fourth season where she had to take a drug as part of her covert activities with Worf.

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          That’s crazy. Why couldn’t they just make the pretend alcohol substitute consistent? We demand accuracy in our made up future drugs damn it! They couldn’t even hold on to the colorful space food for crying out loud. You may have thought the writing in the 4th and 5th seasons of Discovery may have been what sent me over the edge, but no!

          Synthehol, synthale, synthahol - Pick one, you fuckers! Is it intoxicating, or just a flavor agent‽ If the latter, why the fuck did Quark open a bar and not a casino? He would try to capitalize on the addictive properties of alcohol.

          I’m just going to quote Tasha Yar here: Drugs make you feel good.

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        And I don’t think they were exactly loading up that tiny shuttlecraft with bottles of scotch. First place he headed to was the nearest galactic liquor store.