I’m being purposefully hyperbolic to people that think investing in local communities is a genocide. Realistically yes, you can have leftist beliefs while believing anti left fascist propaganda. A whole lot of why the Weimar Republic fell was socialists believing fascists over their own comrades. But really if the only actual sources for a thing are people paid to explicitly be against communism, maybe don’t believe it. Read some Chinese history, look into the myths like mao ordering sparrows to be killed and read why that’s not a thing that happened and where those stories first started.

You will never have a clear view of anything regarding people, were too chaotic of a thing to objectively record, but you can get a much better idea if you understand the underlying motivations of those doing the recording. Chinese propaganda wants to entrench Chinese power for a China controlled by the people. American propaganda wants to entrench the ruling classes power for a China controlled by the American ruling class. Seems the biases are therefore a little uneven.

Ask yourself this, how do you think your revolution, whatever revolution you think is necessary to install your ideology, is going to go 50 years after it’s successful and you’ve been attacked constantly on all sides and from within by the enemy?

Turns out we can answer that, you won’t make it 50 years, you won’t make it five if you stick to principles doomed to fail.

China isn’t a fascist state, they’re not an imperialist state. They’re an unapologetic dictatorship of the proletariat, and the only country still around that has executed billionaires, plural. Are they communist? No, no state can be communist given that statelessness is required. But they have an open democracy where all citizens can participate, a government that explicitly follows the will of the people, and an economy that favors the workers and has pulled more people out of poverty than all other economic systems combined. All without really violating human rights.

Man you neolibs get worse every year.

Reread, I never suggested you support capital, I suggested your outdated naive ideology has no chance against capital. As to your second point, reread some basic theory as to why dengism was adopted in China and how it has successfully outlasted the ussr and all other left wing movements in history while being true to its ml roots.

That’s nice and all, but there are literally millions of critics that aren’t banned, whose work is publicly available, who criticize from a place of wanting to improve, not destroy.

China is ML, and if there’s anything MLs live to do, it’s criticize each other.

The vast majority of people that actually get banned from producing certain works either spread entirely false propaganda created by western intelligence agencies ( uighur “genocide” ) or want to remove the government entirely and replace it with a kleptocracy like the US has.

Suspicion of terrorism, or nothing at all. If the libs are right they wouldn’t care about charges anymore. But since libs are so rarely correct, the government can hold you for 72 hours without charge and the patriot act has a whole list of charges that require no evidence for an arrest. Also statistically you live within 100 miles of a US border if you’re in the US, meaning border patrol can arrest you for any reason or no reason indefinitely.

Oh, you’re an idealist stuck two centuries behind everyone else. Capital can and will crush everything you build through your ideology, so drop the anarcho part until capital is eliminated globally, or enjoy being a slave to capital your entire existence.

I’ve lived in China for work. It’s genuinely no different than say, the Denmark in terms of “repression” except instead of arresting those that threaten capital, they arrest those that threaten the people (usually on behalf of capital). It’s not an anarchist paradise, they haven’t achieved communism, but they’re likely the furthest thing from fascism that’s still a nation. Anyone that claims to be on the left and dislikes their methods or compares them to fascists are genuinely either not on the left, or are baby lefties stuck in the 1800s in terms of reading and philosophy.

Depends on the disagreement. If you think the country should burn and it’s people suffer and are advocating for that, you should maybe be arrested.

It’s amazing how you neolibs expose yourselves. You sure you wouldn’t be more comfortable on reddit little buddy?

Good thing China doesn’t either.

There really aren’t any good parts to liberalism. If you’re a liberal and the current year starts with a 2, you’re a monster. Like full on, need to be forcefully reducated kinda monster.

But to your second point, all nations, societies, and groups need to do that. It’s a fundamental aspect of society. There hasn’t been a society yet that doesn’t.

Why would anyone mention racist petrocountries that are essentially Saudi Arabia but white?

If you think China is fascist, you’re brainwashed. There isnt another explanation for thinking the most democratic nation currently on the planet is fascist.

“moderate” immigrants from China don’t exist. You can’t be moderate between two entirely different and incompatible socioeconomic systems.

Liberal ideology is a regressive conservative ideology.

It was progressive three centuries ago. It’s not anymore, it’s outlived it’s usefulness.

Maybe Dems shouldn’t have expanded oil drilling to the highest levels on record while leasing off more BLM than previous administrations, while campaigning on genocide.

The owners of the US finally being honest is no different in effect than them hiding behind lies they never intended to fulfill.

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They’d win. Assuming they invest in messaging and campaigning, instead of whatever the fuck Harris spent a billion on.

You people will eventually need to understand that you’re wrong and you’re the reason Trump is in office. Hope you figure it out before you’re on the wrong end of an open class war.