Yep. It’s hard to point that out when my reasoning gets sucked into a circular black hole.

I’m done responding. People that can be helped can read this thread in the future and maybe realize something about themselves.

You think you’re perfect. You are not. No one is. I am not saying you are a racist. You are a human with human biases.

What you’ve just told me is that you have no interest in discovering and changing yourself to help make a difference. Not to be on any sort of moral high-ground, but I have a really tough time with people that have no desire to learn and improve.

What I’m going to ignore is your assertion that philosophy is not relevant to daily life. That is the stupidest claim in this thread, and it is at the very core of your (subconscious) bigotry. If you can’t see that, then there is no next step.

Would you say skin color is relevant in our daily lives just because some people think it is?

Yes. That was my point. Check your privilege. You don’t have to be a flagrant racist to subconsciously make decisions and judgements based on race (and gender).

I’m not going to explain how inherent and human biases work. If you care to start making a difference, then it’s up to you to understand that you’re not perfect and learn how to start changing how you see and affect the world beyond your idealist rose-colored glasses.

I also said nothing about excluding philosophy discussions. Please do not put words in my mouth.

I don’t have to.

“Is irrelevant” and “should be irrelevant” are two different things. Fighting by saying the issues are not there—regardless of your actual opinion—has rarely, if ever, worked. It’s the same as the “I don’t see color” argument.

Also, why would we exclude philosophical discussion? The point is to make you think. I also don’t know who this particular person is in the OP, but the question itself has no bias. Maybe this highlights our philosophical differences, but I firmly believe that understanding a system is the most crucial step to revolutionizing it.