• nBodyProblem@lemmy.world
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    There are all kinds of discussions we can have about this, not the least of which is that “no guns” simply isn’t an option in a country with 500 million firearms and no central firearm registry.

    But, really, all that stuff is beside the point. Guns are the ultimate equalizer. They equalize the weak and the strong. An 80 year old grandma can defend herself against a 25 year old man using a gun. A suppressed populace can defend themselves against a tyrannical government using guns.

    Gun crime has negligible impact on most Americans; we have about half as many firearm homicides as traffic deaths annually.

    Philosophically, the gun community feels having that equalizer and balance against tyranny is more important than the impacts of gun crime. Whether or not more gun control will decrease gun crime is irrelevant if a person feels that free firearm access is the more important of the two issues.

    Btw, regardless of your views, if you come to the US you should shoot some guns. It’s fun and you’ll be glad you did.

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      Wow, so we have too many guns so no reason to regulate has to be one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard. It is like common sense showed up to have you shart in their face

      Guns are the ultimate equalizer sounds like something a weak assed little Nazi would say. Why does every other modern civilized country not need them then? It is like you look at the worst case and say it is now the best case

      I could give a shit about the feels of gun nutters. To think we have to appease homicidal radicals is fucking bonkers.

      I think most people will pass on the shooting thing. There is a lot more to the USA than a bunch of gun waving lunatics.

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        We have not only more guns in circulation than people, but a constitutional right to those guns that you would have to overcome to remove them all.

        I never expected to see a “those who disagree with me are actual Nazis” in the wild, used apparently straight faced. Godwin’s law kicked in very quickly.

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          Proud of being dumb I guess. Hur dur we got most guns than anyone and a million deaths over the last twenty years to prove it. Aww shucks.

          I never expected to see so many gun apologist bootlickers. Better run cause the gun grabbers are cumin fer yah.

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            I was more pointing out that there are legal and constitutional hurdles beyond the number of guns, the later of which you are hand waving away under a “the second best time is now” argument and ignoring the former. Especially with the current Supreme Court, we have at least 4 years before further gun control legislation attempts can be made. State and county guns bans and control laws are being struck down as unconstitutional left and right.

            I am pro private gun ownership personally and believe in a legal right to self defense, but am not even talking about that. You are vigorously arguing for a pipe dream of seemingly “just make guns illegal, it will work out from there”, in the current political climate, while calling people with different opinions Nazis. All those blank steps before Profit are doing some very heavy lifting.

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          honestly it is the only way they can throw off the bourgeoisie. people who want to deprive the proletariat of guns are class traitors or posers from the bourgeoisie.

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            Let’s be honest. You just want to see people die as long as they are the “right” group. Pardon me while I go throw up.

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        I have traveled most of the country and 95% of Americans are normal people who just want the best for the people around them. They just have different perspectives on what that means.

        You should let your hate go, my friend. I promise you’ll be happier for it.

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          Same and it is clear 95% are not gun nutters.

          Reality is a harsh mistress and your gun rhetoric is absolute garbage.