The people saying “Violence isn’t the answer” are the people who don’t want to see anything change
50 upvotes. Comment actually based on real data that happens to show that the original premise is actually wrong: 0 upvotes. Why is Lemmy exactly like Reddit? I thought people coming here were a bit more aware of ideologies etc.
There is a massive difference between someone who actively fights against their biases and doesn’t let them dictate the conclusions they reach, and is always open to changing those conclusions and their way of thinking as new information comes to their attention, and someone who clings to those biases, and happily ignores anything that may challenge them.
I only define the latter category as “ideologues”. Sure, technically everyone who is sapient has an ideology, but as the definition says:
an adherent of an ideology, especially one who is uncompromising and dogmatic.
I have a feeling you know very well that’s the kind of person I was talking about. And no, not everyone is like that. On Reddit I was once called a “commie” and a “Nazi” on the same day by different people in different subs, lol, both in reaction to being told a fact that contradicted a bias of theirs. Those are the kind of people I’m talking about.
This whole UHC/Luigi thing has really outlined how dangerously toxic Lemmy is. I mean “dangerous” very literally, too. It should not incite the amount of vitriol I have received because I dared to say “I don’t like killing”.
Not just Lemmy, dude. Go out into the world and you’ll hear the same sentiment straight from human mouths.
In this case, the “dangerously toxic” thing going on here is the US healthcare system. It’s broken and everyone knows it. Apparently, no amount of complaining, begging, and letters to Congress are going to fix it so, here we are. It speaks volumes to me that even after the fucked up election this year, dems AND pubs are backing this HERO.
You might not like it but we seem to be in a spot where the talking has failed so the killing (or at least the threat of it) must begin.
You got flak - rightfully - because you critiziced the claims adjustment while having no sympathy for the victims of legalized mass murder by denial of claims.
So don’t play the victim here.
Random, generalizing comment:
50 upvotes. Comment actually based on real data that happens to show that the original premise is actually wrong: 0 upvotes. Why is Lemmy exactly like Reddit? I thought people coming here were a bit more aware of ideologies etc.
Lemmy is just slower Reddit. Plenty of ideologues here.
Everyone’s an idealogue. Don’t kid yourself, ObjectivityIncarnate.
There is a massive difference between someone who actively fights against their biases and doesn’t let them dictate the conclusions they reach, and is always open to changing those conclusions and their way of thinking as new information comes to their attention, and someone who clings to those biases, and happily ignores anything that may challenge them.
I only define the latter category as “ideologues”. Sure, technically everyone who is sapient has an ideology, but as the definition says:
I have a feeling you know very well that’s the kind of person I was talking about. And no, not everyone is like that. On Reddit I was once called a “commie” and a “Nazi” on the same day by different people in different subs, lol, both in reaction to being told a fact that contradicted a bias of theirs. Those are the kind of people I’m talking about.
This whole UHC/Luigi thing has really outlined how dangerously toxic Lemmy is. I mean “dangerous” very literally, too. It should not incite the amount of vitriol I have received because I dared to say “I don’t like killing”.
Not just Lemmy, dude. Go out into the world and you’ll hear the same sentiment straight from human mouths.
In this case, the “dangerously toxic” thing going on here is the US healthcare system. It’s broken and everyone knows it. Apparently, no amount of complaining, begging, and letters to Congress are going to fix it so, here we are. It speaks volumes to me that even after the fucked up election this year, dems AND pubs are backing this HERO.
You might not like it but we seem to be in a spot where the talking has failed so the killing (or at least the threat of it) must begin.
There are other stronger actions available before advocating for killing. Let’s focus on those first, eh?
What’s your best idea?
And yet, Brian Robert Thompson will never kill again.
You got flak - rightfully - because you critiziced the claims adjustment while having no sympathy for the victims of legalized mass murder by denial of claims. So don’t play the victim here.
Never did such a thing. Lying should not be necessary to try to make a point.
The real data you like is arguing the Nazis were more effectively defeated through non violence.