• Empricorn@feddit.nl
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      I think women should be free to show their nipples as much as they want. But I’m biased, because I want to see more of their nipples.

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        Same. We have the greatest opportunity as men in all of human history, if we legalize it world wide and let it become widespread, we will be the only generation of men that will get to see a ton of boobies and actually enjoy it. The next generation after that will consider it common and won’t bat an eye.

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          I will NEVER understand slut shaming.

          "Women willing to have sex? Fuck, we gotta humiliate them and discourage that!

          Not on my watch… "

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    I know not everybody contemplates the messages found in their preferred media, but it’s hard to imagine someone who thinks like that finding anything to like about Star Trek.

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      I tend to agree, but there are two issues working agaonst Star Trek.

      1. Successful media appeals to broad audiences by having something to appeal to every demographic. (E.g. Don’t like politics? Stay for the lasers.)
      2. Good sci-fi (arguably stories in general) gives the best representation of both sides of a conflict, and lets them compete on their merits. So it’s possible to resonate with one side, then miss the critique (e.g. due to modest writing or selective hearing).

      So while Star Trek tends to show progressive values winning in the end, many people can enjoy other aspects (e.g. military stories, relationships, and action) while ignoring the upshot.

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      I grew up in (and eventually left) a conservative Christian church, so I don’t have a good idea of how aware normal people are when it comes to the fears and obsessions of that community. From stories like these I think that there’s hardly any awareness at all – which is totally fine! Those beliefs are erroneous and damaging! But two things worth understanding if you want to know why these complaints of theirs are so common (and wrong of course):

      1. Evangelicals believe that if the existence of same-sex attraction is kept secret then no one would ever be gay, and

      2. Evangelicals believe that sexy media leads to horniness, which leads to jerking-off, which is a sin – whereas horrifying bloody violence does not.

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      It does seem that more than a few of this kind of people are quite tonedef. One example is a lot of them liking Rage Against the Machine but objecting when Tom Morello makes a political statement, as if their entire song catalog wasn’t political and literally raging against everything those conservatives and/or fascists hold dear.

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      There are a surprising number of conservatives for who the entire message of the show has just gone over their heads.