Basically title. I’m in the process of setting up a proper backup for my configured containers on Unraid and I’m wondering how often I should run my backup script. Right now, I have a cron job set to run on Monday and Friday nights, is this too frequent? Whats your schedule and do you strictly backup your appdata (container configs), or is there other data you include in your backups?

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    20 hours ago

    I’m always backing up with SyncThing in realtime, but every week I do an off-site type of tarball backup that isn’t within the SyncThing setup.

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    rsync from ZFS to an off-site unraid every 24 hours 5 times a week. on the sixth day it does a checksum based rsync which obviously means more stress so only do it once a week. the seventh day is reserved for ZFS scrubbing every two weeks.

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    Backup all of my proxmox-LXCs/VMs to a proxmox backup server every night + sync these backups to another pbs in another town. A second proxmox backup every noon to my nas. (i know, 3-2-1 rule is not reached…)

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    I have

    • Unraid back up it’s USB
    • Unraid appears gets backed up weekly by a community applications (CA app backup) and I use rclone to back it up to an old box account (100GB for life…) I did have it encrypted but seems I need to fix that…
    • Parity drive on my Unraid (8TB)
    • I am trying to understand how to use Rclone to back up my photos to Proton Drive so that’s next.

    Music and media is not too important yet but I would love some insight

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    Right now, I have a cron job set to run on Monday and Friday nights, is this too frequent?

    Only you can answer this. How many days of data are you prepared to lose? What is the downside of running your backup scripts more frequently?

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    Proxmox servers are mirrored zpools, not that RAID is a backup. Replication between Proxmox servers every 15 minutes for HA guests, hourly for less critical guests. Full backups with PBS at 5AM and 7PM, 2 sets apiece with one set that goes off site and is rotated weekly. Differential replication every day to zfs.rent. I keep 30 dailies, 12 weeklys, 24 monthly and infinite annuals.

    Periodic test restores of all backups at various granularities at least monthly or whenever I’m bored or fuck something up.

    Yes, former sysadmin.

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      This is very similar to how I run mine, except that I use Ceph instead of ZFS. Nightly backups of the CephFS data with Duplicati, followed by staggered nightly backups for all VMs and containers to a PBS VM on a the NAS. File backups from unraid get sent up to CrashPlan.

      Slightly fewer retention points to cut down on overall storage, and a similar test pattern.

      Yes, current sysadmin.

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    3 days ago

    Daily toward all my three locations:

    • local on the server
    • in-house but on a different device
    • offsite

    But not all three destinations backup the same amount of data due to storage limitations.

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    I classify the data according to its importance (gold, silver, bronze, ephemeral). The regularity of the zfs snapshots (15 minutes to several hours) and their retention time (days to years) on the server depends on this. I then send the more important data that I cannot restore or can only restore with great effort (gold and silver) to another server once a day. For bronze, the zfs snapshots and a few days of storage time on the server are enough for me, as it is usually data that I can restore (build artifacts or similar) or is simply not that important. Ephemeral is for unimportant data such as caches or pipelines.

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    3 days ago

    I continuous backup important files/configurations to my NAS. That’s about it.

    IMO people who redundant/backup their media are insane… It’s such an incredible waste of space. Having a robust media library is nice, but there’s no reason you can’t just start over if you have data corruption or something. I have TB and TB of media that I can redownload in a weekend if something happens (if I even want). No reason to waste backup space, IMO.

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      Maybe for common stuff but some dont want 720p YTS or yify releases.
      There are also some releases that don’t follow TVDB aired releases (which sonarr requires) and matching 500 episodes manually with deviating names isn’t exactly what I call ‘fun time’.
      Amd there are also rare releases that just arent seeded anymore in that specific quality or present on usenet.

      So yes: Backup up some media files may be important.

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        Data hoarding random bullshit will never make sense to me. You’re literally paying to keep media you didn’t pay for because you need the 4k version of Guardians of the Galaxy 3 even though it was a shit movie…

        Grab the YIFY, if it’s good, then get the 2160p version… No reason to datahoard like that. It’s frankly just stupid considering you’re paying to store this media.

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          This may work for you and please continue doing that.

          But I’ll get the 1080p with a moderate bitrate version of whatever I can aquire because I want it in the first place and not grab whatever I can to fill up my disk.

          And as I mentioned: Matching 500 episodes (e.g. Looney Tunes and Disney shorts) manually isnt fun.
          Much less if you also want to get the exact release (for example music) of a certain media and need to play detective on musicbrainz.

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            Matching 500 episodes (e.g. Looney Tunes and Disney shorts) manually isnt fun.

            With tools like TinyMediaManager, why in the absolute fuck would you do it manually?

            At this point, it sounds like you’re just bad at media management more than anything. 1080p h265 video is at most between 1.5-2GB per video. That means with even a modest network connection speed (500Mbps lets say) you can realistically download 5TB of data over 24 hours… You can redownload your entire media library in less than 4-5 days if you wanted to.

            So why spend ~$700 on 2 20TB drives, one to be used only as redundancy, when you can simply redownload everything you previously had (if you wanted to) for free? It’ll just take a little bit of time.

            Complete waste of money.

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              I prefer Sonarr for management.
              Problem is the auto matching.
              It just doesnt always work.
              Practical example: Looney. Tunes.and.Merrie.Melodies.HQ.Project.v2022

              Some episodes are either not in the correct order or their name is deviating from how tvdb sorts it.
              Your best regex/automatching can do nothing about it if Looney.Tunes.Shorts.S11.E59.The.Hare.In.Trouble.mkv should actually be named Looney.Tunes.Shorts.S1959.E11.The.Hare.In.A.Pickle.mkv to be automatically imported.

              At some point fixing multiple hits becomes so tedious it’s easier to just clear all auto-matches and restart fresh.

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      It becomes a whole different thing when you yourself are a creator of any kind. Sure you can retorrent TBs of movies. But you can’t retake that video from 3 years ago. I have about 2 TB of photos I took. I classify that as media.

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    I use Duplicati for my backups, and have backup retention set up like this:

    Save one backup each day for the past week, then save one each week for the past month, then save one each month for the past year.

    That way I have granual backups for anything recent, and the further back in the past you go the less frequent the backups are to save space

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    Not as o̸̯̪̳̫͗f̴̨͇̉̉̀ͅt̶̢̩̞̽̾̆ẽ̶̳n̸̩͓̯̼͑̃̀̉ ̶̛̜̘̠̉̍̕a̸̭͆̓̀s̴̙͚̮̣̊ ̷̮̽̀Ị̷̬͓̀̕ ̸̧̨̜̥̄͠ş̸̨̫̼͔̠̘͕̮̫̥̘̜͉͖̦̱̭͕̟͕̳̩͎̅̍̿̓̆̈̍̏͛͛̋̈́̇̅̑̓̀̊͗͘͝͝͝͠h̸̢̡̢̢̖͖̝̦̰̤̦͉̒̀̋̾̉̈́̏́̉ơ̶̢̲̤̩͈̹͙̯̝͕͕͔̱̌̀͛̑͑̏̓̔͐͋̆ŭ̶̧̢͙͉̭̮̺͚͍͙̮̫̩̮͓͉͗͗̃̏͊̀̽̂̏͊̎̐̓̌̕͝͠l̸̖̙̩̖̈͗́̀̓̀͗̏͑̊̃̓͋͛̕͠͝d̷̳̼̆́͛̀̆̽́͑̏͂͌͘

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    Longest interval is every 24 hours. With some more frequent like every 6 hours or so, like the ones for my game servers.

    I have multiple backups (3-2-1 rule), 1 is just important stuff as a file backup, the other is a full bootable system image of everything.

    With proper backup software incremental backups don’t use any more space unless files are changed, so no real downside to more frequent backups.

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    I honestly don’t have too much to back up, so I run one full backup job every Sunday for different directories I care about. They run a check on the directory and only back up any changes or new files. I don’t have the space to backup everything, so I only take the smaller stuff and most important. The backup software also allows live monitoring if I enable it, so some of my jobs I have that turned on since I didn’t see any reason not to. I reuse the NAS drives that report errors that I replace with new ones to save on money. So far, so good.

    Backup software is Bvckup2, and reddit was a huge fan of it years ago, so I gave it a try. It was super cheap for a lifetime license at the time, and it’s super lightweight. Sorry, there is no Linux version.