Tossing aside the EU was an absolutely insulting move by Disney.
No. It was literally the only thing they could have done.
You people always seem to willfully forget the abject fucking insanity of the Extended Universe. Let’s just take a single game. Force Unleashed. Starkiller murders every major character in the canon. Are they just supposed to roll with that dumbassery as their in world canon now? Just go “Well, that game executed Han Solo and Leia and Vader. Can never use em again because of a fan fiction game that was only made due to an off hand joke about Starkiller being the former name for Skywalker”?
The Extended Universe was a garbage heap and the people who scream about Disney de-canonizing it are people who were not familiar with it. They knew a couple of stories and loved those and thought it would be cool and I agree. Corran Horn would have been interesting but there’s nothing saying that they can’t be introduced in the future. They decanonized Revan but he’s canon again now and they’re moving forward on that.
The reason they suddenly cut the EU was because George Lucas is a shortminded fuckhead who had no goddamn plan for Star Wars despite any claim to the opposite. He allowed anyone and everyone to write whatever story they wanted about Star Wars. As long as it didn’t break a few specific rules then it was considered tacit canon. That is fan fiction, dude. A whole lot of fan fiction that was written by a ton of different people with overlapping narratives.
Disney had literally no other choice afforded to them because Lucas was a useless shithead who had a couple of ideas that he kneecapped as hard as humanly possible. I’m tired of pretending that dude had any plan at all when the three Original Trilogy movies are not even consistent in their own lore nevermind the Prequels.
Star Wars in general is a joke. Placing the blame solely at the feet of Disney is just giving Lucas a free pass for the multi-year stroke he had. Disney did NOT do the best job they had available, don’t get me wrong. Solo is a joke and a lot of their stuff they’ve made I cannot stand but it is just insane to blame them completely for it. Lucas had no idea what he was doing either.
I get you. I really do. It hurts a lot that Star Wars has become what it is today and the joke started at Phantom Menace.
I suppose what I’m getting at is that Star Wars is a cluster fuck no matter which way you slice it but at least EU occasionally made it a fun cluster fuck.
I’m not saying that Disney should have followed every canon that that walking fop of chest hair Lucas let through. They should have just left it alone and never mentioned it. Don’t think I’m a Lucas fan. I hate him. Countless authors just dropped trow and shit on his desk and he made it canon.
I mean, Lucas told RA Salvatore, one of my favorite authors, that he had to kill off Chewbacca after he took the contract. So Salvatore, insulted, killed Chewie in the most heroic but ridiculous way he could think of and ran him over with a goddamn moon. From then on Lucas banned Chewbacca from any future New Jedi Order series and we got Lumpawarump.
So whereas the EU was indeed mindless insanity, it was our mindless insanity. Most EU fans like me who are aware of the shitshow it was accepted that it wasn’t perfect and cherry picked our own headcanon from the books. Disney essentially ripped that from us and forced this inconsistent, uninteresting slop down our throats.
They lost a chunk of fanbase decanonizing it, receiving ridicule en masse, when they could have just ignored it and put out their own events anyway. I’m not just one of those “couple of stories” guys, but I will concede that I am one of those “couple of stories I actually really enjoyed” guys.
That’s fair. I just get frustrated when Disney gets the brunt of the blame for decanonizing it when they weren’t really presented with much of an option. In an ideal world we would have had Lucas keep it and actually do something with the IP instead of letting it wither away. No matter who bought it after the fact had to contend with the abject insanity that Lucas had wrought.
Disney deserves blame for some shit, don’t get me wrong. I will say I kinda like the Sequels to an extent, although by no means blind to the numerous flaws and way less of a fanboy than of newer Trek, but a lot of their other stuff was nonsensical. Some deserves praise (I personally am really enjoying the Cal Kestis story, minus the ‘twist’ in Survivor, and Andor was spectacular) and other stuff (Just gonna stare aggressively in Boba Fett’s direction) deserves some heavy mockery. I just never personally cared much about decanonization because I couldn’t see any alternative and I feel that the hate Disney gets for decanonizing should be more accurately directed towards Lucas for either causing that mess or selling it in the first place. Basically a shoot the messenger situation when no matter who bought it was gonna basically have to do that or do the same fuckheaded shit that Lucas already was.
No. It was literally the only thing they could have done.
You people always seem to willfully forget the abject fucking insanity of the Extended Universe. Let’s just take a single game. Force Unleashed. Starkiller murders every major character in the canon. Are they just supposed to roll with that dumbassery as their in world canon now? Just go “Well, that game executed Han Solo and Leia and Vader. Can never use em again because of a fan fiction game that was only made due to an off hand joke about Starkiller being the former name for Skywalker”?
The Extended Universe was a garbage heap and the people who scream about Disney de-canonizing it are people who were not familiar with it. They knew a couple of stories and loved those and thought it would be cool and I agree. Corran Horn would have been interesting but there’s nothing saying that they can’t be introduced in the future. They decanonized Revan but he’s canon again now and they’re moving forward on that.
The reason they suddenly cut the EU was because George Lucas is a shortminded fuckhead who had no goddamn plan for Star Wars despite any claim to the opposite. He allowed anyone and everyone to write whatever story they wanted about Star Wars. As long as it didn’t break a few specific rules then it was considered tacit canon. That is fan fiction, dude. A whole lot of fan fiction that was written by a ton of different people with overlapping narratives.
Disney had literally no other choice afforded to them because Lucas was a useless shithead who had a couple of ideas that he kneecapped as hard as humanly possible. I’m tired of pretending that dude had any plan at all when the three Original Trilogy movies are not even consistent in their own lore nevermind the Prequels.
Star Wars in general is a joke. Placing the blame solely at the feet of Disney is just giving Lucas a free pass for the multi-year stroke he had. Disney did NOT do the best job they had available, don’t get me wrong. Solo is a joke and a lot of their stuff they’ve made I cannot stand but it is just insane to blame them completely for it. Lucas had no idea what he was doing either.
I get you. I really do. It hurts a lot that Star Wars has become what it is today and the joke started at Phantom Menace.
I suppose what I’m getting at is that Star Wars is a cluster fuck no matter which way you slice it but at least EU occasionally made it a fun cluster fuck.
I’m not saying that Disney should have followed every canon that that walking fop of chest hair Lucas let through. They should have just left it alone and never mentioned it. Don’t think I’m a Lucas fan. I hate him. Countless authors just dropped trow and shit on his desk and he made it canon.
I mean, Lucas told RA Salvatore, one of my favorite authors, that he had to kill off Chewbacca after he took the contract. So Salvatore, insulted, killed Chewie in the most heroic but ridiculous way he could think of and ran him over with a goddamn moon. From then on Lucas banned Chewbacca from any future New Jedi Order series and we got Lumpawarump.
So whereas the EU was indeed mindless insanity, it was our mindless insanity. Most EU fans like me who are aware of the shitshow it was accepted that it wasn’t perfect and cherry picked our own headcanon from the books. Disney essentially ripped that from us and forced this inconsistent, uninteresting slop down our throats.
They lost a chunk of fanbase decanonizing it, receiving ridicule en masse, when they could have just ignored it and put out their own events anyway. I’m not just one of those “couple of stories” guys, but I will concede that I am one of those “couple of stories I actually really enjoyed” guys.
That’s fair. I just get frustrated when Disney gets the brunt of the blame for decanonizing it when they weren’t really presented with much of an option. In an ideal world we would have had Lucas keep it and actually do something with the IP instead of letting it wither away. No matter who bought it after the fact had to contend with the abject insanity that Lucas had wrought.
Disney deserves blame for some shit, don’t get me wrong. I will say I kinda like the Sequels to an extent, although by no means blind to the numerous flaws and way less of a fanboy than of newer Trek, but a lot of their other stuff was nonsensical. Some deserves praise (I personally am really enjoying the Cal Kestis story, minus the ‘twist’ in Survivor, and Andor was spectacular) and other stuff (Just gonna stare aggressively in Boba Fett’s direction) deserves some heavy mockery. I just never personally cared much about decanonization because I couldn’t see any alternative and I feel that the hate Disney gets for decanonizing should be more accurately directed towards Lucas for either causing that mess or selling it in the first place. Basically a shoot the messenger situation when no matter who bought it was gonna basically have to do that or do the same fuckheaded shit that Lucas already was.