Selfhosting is useful when you either need a lot of storage or a lot of processing power. For example, Kiwix is useful to selfhost on a server because a lot of its content can take up terabytes of storage, which a phone may not have. LLMs are also useful to selfhost because they require a degree of processing power that, again, a phone may not have.

In both cases, there is also a need for perpetual access. If you simply hosted an LLM on your home computer, it wouldn’t be very useful to access from your phone since your computer won’t be running all the time. So, a separate always-on server is needed.

However, there are some selfhosted software that I don’t see a use for. For example, Immich. Immich requires to be run on a server to function, but a lot of (or even all) of its functions are things that could reasonably done entirely on-device. Aves combined with some automatic backup solution such as Nextcloud gets (from what I can tell) most of the functionality Immich offers. Obviously, some features like AI image tagging are missing, but you get the point. AI image tagging is also something that could be run on-device as well, since it’s mostly lightweight (iPhones are capable of it). Having a setup like that also comes with the benefit of automatic backups being completely optional, rather than required.

There’s no reasonable need for extra storage or extra processing power needed for that use case, from what I can tell. (Disclaimer: I haven’t actually used Immich before, so this is speculation. I apologize if I’m missing something obvious) There’s a lot of other selfhosted tools like spotDL which have a selfhosted web UI, but no GUI that can be installed outside of a web browser.

I guess my question is why there are so many selfhosted tools that unnecessarily require being run on a separate device. I do understand the legitimate use cases some of them have, but others seem better off on-device airgapped. This especially became an issue trying to find a notes app for Android that requires no account and runs fully locally, or an RSS reader that loads from the device itself. I found Joplin and Feeder or Read You as the software for each of those. I don’t like “server-based” selfhosting for things that could be done from the device itself.

I’m sorry if this turned into a rant. If someone could help me understand, I would appreciate that very much.

Cheers!

  • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialEnglish
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    3 days ago

    Tldr - selfhosting is useful when:

    • you need a lot of storage

    • you need a lot of processing

    • you are collaborating with multiple people/family members

    • you are sharing media with other people outside your network

    • you are sharing media across devices

    • you want a standalone backup independent of your mobile device without doing so manually

    • you want more advanced AI features that are not feasible to do on device (such as image detection or live security camera object detection)

    • you want your home IOT devices to work locally without a cloud connection

    • you have old hardware collecting dust and want to put it to use

    • you like to make things

    Seems like you might have understood the purpose of those apps, you just didn’t personally have those needs yourself, and that’s fine