Just checking the place out after not being able to stand Reddit and its policies anymore. Their policing of Luigi posts was the last straw for me. Going public ruins companies.
Welcome to Lemmy/The Fediverse! If you don’t like Lemmy, there’s also Mbin instances. They’re both good but I like Mbin’s interface a little more.
Don’t forget, there are also a ton of good mobile apps for Lemmy. I like Connect but there are a lot of good ones.
There’s no going back anyways. I’ve tried making new accounts. It’s impossible to post anywhere.
The account vetting filters block me everywhere. Can’t post unless I’m a vetted poster. Can’t become vetted because I can’t post to begin with. I can’t be bothered to seek out and karma farm on random subreddits that aren’t a mess of filters.
Kill all CEOs. Let’s see how different Lemmy is from Reddit.
You can make your own Lemmy iinstance and be your own censorship police, that’s the difference. Thats NOT an option on Reddit.
Hell, you don’t even have to be on Lemmy, Mastodon, any if the Bins etc can interact bacause they alo use ActivityPub.
There are plethora of instances people don’t federate with becase they don’t agree with them, that’s how it SHOULD be.
Welcome to Lemmy! I’m glad you joined. There are tons of tutorials out there for how to use the platform, but if it helps, here’s my advice:
I use the Android app Sync For Lemmy. Reminds me a lot of rif is fun from before Reddit shut down 3rd party API access about a year ago.
Lemmy.World is the name of the biggest instance on Lemmy. Think of it as a discord channel with different sub-channels except those are called communities here (and instead of r/ for subreddits we have c/ for communities).
There are still trolls here. What’s nice about Lemmy is that you can block individual trolls, communities of trolls, or even instances of trolls (if you deem them so). Conversely, if you get banned from any of the above, you can make a new account on any other instance (like dbzer0 or shitjustworks) and still have access to the content from those people/places. The same is true if certain communities/instances change their policies on things like Luigi, which happened on Lemmy.World recently. I switched over to dbzer0 to avoid that censorship and to also see stuff about pirating - that which is banned on Lemmy.World.
Lastly, we can see posts/comments from other people on the Fediverse, like from Mastodon (Twitter alternative) and others.
Hope you enjoy your stay here! Lemmy is primarily tech- and politics-focused rn, but a lot of people draw parallels to Reddit’s early days, which is good!
How do you do this? I was not aware this was possible
How do I do what
What i meant to ask is if i need to do anything special to see posts from mastodon
No I think they just show up randomly. You’ll have to look out for Lemmy posts to see if anyone from Mastodon comments. Next to their name is their instance, so if I were on Mastodon, my username would be something like: Resonosity@mastodon.social or something
See posts from Mastodon
dont forget to checkout mbin. its slightly less fugly than lemmy with access to all the same content/functionality and more.
That’s quite the url
Happy cake day!
Btw, Lemmy.world also censors Luigi posts. I would switch to ML or mine
“I don’t like censorship, you should check out ML”
Troll or least aware fediverse user?
I meant it as better than lemmy.world in censoring in a neolib bias and thinking it’s not hexbear or lemmygrad. I have less bad experience with ML, so I guess least aware user lol ;)
From my experience as an anarchist user who ended up volunteering to moderate in these spaces, most of the censorship happens when people are either being racist or aggro/sealioning. While users definitely tend to be more positive when it comes to China in places like hexbear than in more heavily pro-west spaces they are still critical of its shortcomings.
An example here: >80 up voted post with one of the highest comments criticizing the poor standard of care for trans youth in China
Here’s a thread criticizing Russia for being a cringe misogynist capitalist oligarchy and lamenting that the progress for women’s rights and LGBT rights that happened under communism wasn’t preserved. Again it’s a positive orientation because they are opposed to the west but also one of deep disappointment in their failures on social issues.
To me at least this type of commentary is a valuable perspective and is also stuff which often gets filtered entirely under the more advertiser-friendly moderation styles.
At the end of the day I value being able to at least hear dissent, I’m surrounded by the mainstream narrative in my daily life already anyways.
Sorry but unfortunately it’s two sides of the same coin, at least from my experience.
I’m shitting on US and Western imperialism and their love for the Gaza genocide day in day out, had no problem to call the old senile fuck Genocide Joe and I argued against everyone who shilled for Kamala or the “lesser evil“ thing.
I got a lot of hatred for the latter part on .world and I often disagree with their liberal views. I criticized liberal media for fabricating certain narratives and some users thought I’m some MAGA brain damaged idiot. Some users really aren’t the smartest or at least very much stuck in their bi-partisan world view.
Anyway so now that you know all of this about me, I’m also criticizing Chinese and Russian imperialism + genocide the same way. I got banned after like 1 comment on .ml for that and they said it’s for “racism“.
I honestly don’t see any difference, it’s just that .world and .ml users picked different teams. And I got banned faster in .ml lol
the Winnie the Pooh comments are racist though, it’s not hard to have substantive critiques of China without constantly falling back on trying to equate the president with a yellow cartoon animal (or in your case, calling a moderator that). We don’t have to get into it, but they almost always hand out temp bans for that. For example yours is already expired.
the Winnie the Pooh comments are racist though
That’s a strange assumption to make. “Because it’s forbidden in China” is a sufficient explanation of why people do this. For the exact same reason people will forever keep bringing up the Tiananmen Square Massacre.
Ah I love the modlog, convenient that I can see again what happened.
The whole Winnie thing became forbidden in China partly because the meme went super viral on Weibo and they didn’t want people in China to ridicule the supreme leader. Ban me for trolling the mod by equating them to Xi Jinping, I’m fine with that. I will think you should have a thicker skin but whatever. Using racism as a reason to ban me in this context is just censorship.
To provide the context for those too lazy to check the modlog, the comment I’m answering to is straight genocide denial. The Uyghurs are being held in concentration camps, sterilized and their language, religion, and heritage are being wiped out and .ml mods are denying that because it doesn’t fit in their world view.
I’m aware of where the meme came from, personally I think it’s bad taste to be yapping about uyghurs in a thread about the Gaza genocide.
If people were gleefully calling Obama “Tigger” after that, and constantly doing that instead of having a real argument or something to say I think that would start resulting in bans for racism too.
Dbzer0, good. ML, bad. Their admins are trigger happy with instance-wide bans against users who criticize them or argue with them directly about their beliefs.
Did not know! I did choose DB0 for its more anarchist rules
You might want to check the modlogs, bud. .ml HEAVILY censors posts and comments to the point that the admin will override mods and remove posts and comments that don’t even break rules.
.world just doesn’t allow people to promote and encourage violence. Maybe learn the difference.
And while you’re at it, how about you scroll through .world and take note of the shit-tons of edgy Luigi memes posted. They’re everywhere.
You can read I was already corrected but feel the need to type out a long rude and sassy comment. Thanks for showing me who to block!
The fact that this person admits to posting things before they know anything about it shows that this isn’t going to be a big loss.
I’ve been here about a year now. Good times. Your voice counts on lemmy in a way it really really doesn’t on reddit. People will engage with you because you’re human and say human things. It’s much more welcoming for people who like to talk somehow than reddit ever was. Don’t know why.
By the way, people talk a lot about how lemmy.world censors luigi, but I use lemmy.world and see, upvote and sometimes comment on plenty of luigi stuff without mod intervention. Maybe it’s just one of two communities (subreddits) where it’s enforced.
If you’re a communist and don’t like to hear China (or sometimes for some weird reason Russia) criticised, and if you feel that the USA is the Imperialist power that needs to be broken first, you’ll feel most at home in lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, but also lemmy.ml if you want to keep access to stuff from lemmy.world.
If you’re progressive or liberal, you’ll be fairly happy here on lemmy.world. If you’re a conservative, I don’t know where to recommend you.
There are various country specific ones you might find suit you for other reasons.
All in all I’m not sure it matters a great deal as much as it sounds in my post. People from different instances turn up and say stuff anyway.
The best advice is that you don’t have to lurk as much as you used to on reddit, you can show up and engage and the conversation will start around you.
Thank you! This is actually quite helpful.
Also for radical leftists who happily criticise Russia and China (anarchists), servers you might enjoy are: lemmy.dbzer0.com and slrpnk.net
I’m also an old redditor who’s been here for 1.5 years after 3rd party apps died.
This place is much more human and less “dead internet theory” than reddit. Engage with people as much as you’d like and you’ll enjoy being here
There’s also no rule or technical limitation that prevents you from joining several different instances, with the same (or different) username.
By the way, people talk a lot about how lemmy.world censors luigi, but I use lemmy.world and see, upvote and sometimes comment on plenty of luigi stuff without mod intervention. Maybe it’s just one of two communities (subreddits) where it’s enforced.
That’s because the knee-jerk reaction for many of the mods/admins of .world communities, like news, was to massively censor and temp ban people for celebrating what Luigi did… for about 6 hours.
They were massively lambasted for this, they provided nonsensical explanations for the censorship with flimsy explanations based on their community and instance rules which they were very obviously selectively interpreting, were lambasted for these explanations, and then after about 6 hours they largely reversed course, stopped policing ao heavily and undid a bunch of the 24 hour instance wide temp bans.
You can find a few threads/posts on the yepowertrippinbastards community of lemmy.dbzero about this, or check their own modlogs, if they haven’t scrubbed or obfuscated them.
Seems more or less accurate. Partly it’s that we’re all learning this together. Partly it’s that we have a variety of mods that are different for each major community. Partly I think it was an overreaction to legal obligations. Partly it’s that when you have a hammer (mod/admin tools), the tendency is to think that you should use them.
Not an excuse, of course. But people really easily love to criticize any kind of leadership with a broad brush without much willingness or understanding of how things should be led. You wouldn’t believe the number of people who say they “don’t have time” to moderate a community that likely takes less than five minutes of work a month.
Ah that all makes sense now, thank you for explaining.
I’m pretty liberal and haven’t had much issue with lemmy.ml. Stay away from lemmygrad.
I would add that I think checking out and joining smaller instances is also a great opportunity. Distributes the user load across servers and being one of fewer voices in an instance means you have a bigger say in who you federate with. You also get to be a third party instance to most of the big drama and don’t get judged just for your instance as much
Edit: also, if you like your instance, contribute to it!
This is a really good point.
or join the dark side like me.
Just post stuff. There’s less people here - but that also means you can make a big difference in the quality of the community
Welcome in from the cold. We have blankets and cocoa.
I’m here for the same reasons. I’m still figuring it out. So far so good though.
Agreed and welcome! Be prepared to engage in or create a new space for the communities you care about. Things feel like they’re just getting started here, but that’s ok. Good luck and have fun!
Hey, welcome. Hope you find the places you like here. That’s all.
Only issue you might find with signing up for world is you can’t get db0’s piracy communities. I’ve been too lazy to switch since coming from kbin though myself.
Weird part is the last announcement I can find from .world admins said those communities were going to be reinstated, but then here we are months later and they still seem busted.
Plenty visible from sh
