i’m old enough to remember smoking sections on airplanes. Not to be dramatic but, I felt like I was going to die!
Even as a smoker I hated indoor smoking.
Wow that looks awful
It was absolutely disgusting. I only flew once as a kid prior to it being outlawed but I was sick from it.
I was born in the early 80s. Yes I remember a time when so many people smoked and indoor smoking was extremely common.
Even children’s places were ok for adults to smoke in. You know on how many arcade bars today they have cup holders bolted onto the machines for people to put their drinks (alcoholic or otherwise)? Back in the 80s and 90s, they had the same thing in many of those arcades… but they were bolted on ashtrays.
I recently sat in a flight with a Boeing so old it still had ashtrays.
I can’t even Imagine this…
Edit: Of course none of them functional or used in any way… Same with the “non smoking” signs next to the “seatbelts” light up thingies on every seat group.
You’re probably talking about a plane so old it had ashtrays in the arm rests. Just as an interesting note, though, the FAA still requires ashtrays on new aircraft. Not in every seat, but they’re required to have one in each lavatory. They are also all required to have the no smoking signage as a constant reminder that there is absolutely no smoking.
I don’t get non-smoking signs in many places. Smoking bans have been around for so long that they almost feel redundant.
I remember that too!
going to the grocery store and seeing an employee with a big dust-mop going up and down the aisles pushing along an ever-growing pile of cigarette butts because everyone would just drop 'em and step on 'em and keep on shopping…
There are worse smells, like murdered animals on a fire.
Best summer smell. The smell of quality cow flesh slowly cooking over an open flame is one of the best.
They are not on fire. They are just boiling in their own fat. MMMMMMMmmmmmm, fat.
Horrid
When I went vegan I moved to a place where I have to pass a Burger King on the way home. That greasy tallow smell is so nasty every time I pass it.
It’s sad when you first smell the herbs, not realizing it yet.
I’d really prefer to have people smoke around me than to randomly smell something that hurts my feelings.
My coworker is also vegan. One of the people we worked with is this man who can be super nasty, and then turn around and do something nice for you. Without getting into the specifics he’s highly manipulative. Anyway, he had been yelling at her the day before her birthday, and the day of her birthday he shows up with a cake for her, NOT vegan, and wishes her happy birthday and tells her he didn’t have a chance to get a vegan cake. So he really put her on the spot, and cut her a slice and handed it to her, and so she had to sort of pick at the whipped cream icing to be polite because he was standing there watching her. Carnists really love to do shit like that.
Qm i in the wrong thread? I thought this was about smoking, not veganism.
Oh, piss off, dude. We get it. You don’t eat meat and you want to argue about it with strangers on a post that has nothing at all to do with the topic. Virtue signaling as a replacement for a personality.
Born in early 90’s. We were still responding “non” to the first question that was asked entering a restaurant.
Try working in a restaurant. I worked as a server for awhile, right at the tail end of when they still had smoking and nonsmoking sections. It was awful.
Yeah, it was weird. Most restaurants had a non-smoking section because allowing people to smoke everywhere was the norm. Leaded gasoline. Little kids playing with real fireworks. The 70s and 80s were a wild ride of irresponsibility.
It wasn’t all bad, though. It was cool being a kid at times. Playing outside almost every day until dinner time with the other kids in the neighborhood.
They had smoking/non-smoking sections into the 90s and early 2000s in Texas. I remember very clearly that my parents would have to ask for seats away from the bar if the restaurant had one, because they almost always allowed smoking. Also hotel rooms being smoking/non-smoking, and you could tell when a hotel was cheap and just swapped the door sign.
As a child of the 70s/80s, although I don’t remember a great deal of the 70s, your parents had no idea where you were until you came home when the streetlights went on, unless you happened to call from a friend’s house to ask if you could sleep over. I remember my friend getting run over by a car which broke her leg because there was no crossing guard on the busy street where the kids had to cross to go to school, and after that they hired one. I lived up the street from the school, and had a cat that went outside, on hot days the front doors were always open and sometimes she’d go nap in the library or show up in my classroom. Then the neighbour who hates animals and had lost his teaching job for exposing himself to students abducted her and dumped her way across town, but someone found her and put an ad in the list and found section of the paper so I got her back.
That poor cat went through so much.
She was happy as can be and loved visiting.
Don’t forget no cell phones. It’s hard to overstate the (I believe negative) impact constant connection and notification has had on every aspect of our lives
Some boomer on Facebook recently posted a meme with a photo of a rotary phone and how those were better days, and I had to laugh because they decidedly weren’t. When we had no answering machine or call waiting, and had to hang around for phone calls that might come, or have the car break down on the side of the road and hope that someone would stop and help you and that they weren’t a serial killer, that was purely awful. We actually had a serial killer couple abducting and killing teenage girls in my city before cell phones existed, and they made tapes of them raping and torturing these girls before they killed them. A cell phone would probably have helped them a lot.
There also weren’t people broadcasting mass shootings live on Facebook and inspiring copycat shootings, or being indoctrinated into incel culture alone in their bedrooms. There are legitimate pros and legitimate cons to 24/7 connection, this isn’t just some “boomer yells at the sky” thing
It’s just I went to one of the victim’s funerals. I’ll never feel nostalgic for those days as a result.
That’s why I would say that cell phones are fine. It’s when they turned into smartphones where I would draw the line. I just get the feeling that we’d be a lot better off if mobile phone tech never advanced much further than the mid-2000’s flip phone.
YES. Flip phones were fine and were enough to handle all the problems mentioned about pre-cellphones. Calls, texts, voice mail. All the new problems mentioned are caused BY smartphones. If the meme showed a Nokia flip phone it would have been perfect.
Totally agree with this
It’s decidedly worse for mental health. Despite living in the safest times in living memory, we are biased to think our cities are dangerous and economies are failing because of doomscrolling and the dominance of online news.
Little kids playing with real fireworks.
In the early 2000s as teenagers we’d go play in the town with bags of fireworks on new year lmao
From my experience, it’s always been the other way around. There usually were small smoking sections partitioned away from the rest of the restaurant. This was the norm. And it was usually a fraction of the tables compared to the non-smoking sections.
Source: Worked as a server through most of the 80’s-90’s.
Non smoking section with like an 18 inch wall separating it from the smoking section. My mom almost got into a fistfight at a couple of restaurants for seating us directly next to the smoking section instead of in the opposite corner with less secondhand smoke.
And it was usually next to the kitchen and the restrooms. Worst tables all around.
No one can win on this one.
Seat the smokers in back and “oh no, I have to sit next to the kitchen and restroom.”
Seat the smokers in front and “oh no, I have to walk through the smoking section to get to or from my seat, or go to the restroom.”
Or at least that’s how Denny’s was setup in our town.
I don’t know how it was in the U.S., but where I’m from it was like 10% of the seats only, so even if they put it all on good seats, there would still be plenty of good seats for smokers.
In most restaurants I saw there was no wall in between.
In most restaurants I saw there was no wall in between.
This was my experience as well. I can still see it today in some older restaurants that haven’t been renovated in years, where there’s an area of the dining room with a much higher ceiling.
Also once about eight years ago I was in Kentucky doing the bourbon trail. It’s pretty rural aside from the distilleries, and finding somewhere to eat lunch on Sunday was hard as almost everything is closed, we ended up at some place they called a bourbon gastropub, but that meant that the dining room side was the only part fit to eat in, but all that was open was the horrible bar which was made of raw particle board, and there were members of the Klan sitting at it, who had the leather vests with the blood drop cross. There was literally nowhere else to eat so we ordered, but I felt terrified the whole time, and as we were wrapping up one of the Klan lit a cigarette at the bar and just sat there, and nobody said anything. It was quite stunning.
Crazy that these places still exist, but I guess not that surprising.
The smells haven’t gone away, you’re just acclimated now
Now they all smell like weed. I actually wish people who smoked weed were more attentive to how they stink, because it’s also very gross.
Wish I could still buy one of those.
My neighbour smokes indoors. When she opens the door, I get the smell you are talking about.
My aunt smoked two packs a day, in the house, and when I visited I had to wear clothes I was ready to throw away, had to strip and shower when I got home, and once in the space of an hour she smoked seven cigarettes and finally one of my eyes swelled shut, and she demanded to know why I didn’t say anything. My husband pointed out the walls were yellow with tobacco, she lived in the house she grew up in and all the furniture was the same as when she was a child. When she died it all had to be junked, despite some of it probably being antique.
When she died it all had to be junked
The tar might have helped it burn better
Living in Norway, it always strikes me how disgusting smoking still is, even outside, when i go to central europe. You get completely unused to the amount of smoke and stink e.g. outside of stores
I only ever smell it outside anymore, but I walk away fanning the air in front of my face. It’s so nasty.
Can always tell the people who smoke in their cars.
Their cloths are saturated in it and they’re noseblind to it. I’m in Healthcare and you get off an elevator and can tell when the Caregiver who smokes was on the elevator before you.
NICE
Always am heavily cognizant since I smoke weed to not be like the ciggy cunts. Would want someone to tell me.
Isn’t weed the same way? I can always smell it on people who smoke it. It might not be quite as ‘sticky’ as cigarette smoke?, but I can still smell it on people’s clothes until they are washed, or in their house or car.
Please tell someone. Dunno bout them but I’d appreciate being told. Feel like an ass otherwise.
Still be the case of course lol
Brush teeth if going anywhere before. Never smoke around others. I breath test, cloths test.
Some family smoke cigarettes fairly heavily and I’ve never smelled it on them. Despite living in the same home. They are conscious of others with their habit. I don’t know what the people who reek do. Maybe they hotbox the actual smoke.
Yeah if you reek of smoke that bad you’re probably smoking in confined spaces e.g. inside your house, car, etc. Clothes start being impregnated again as soon as they’re out of the wash coz the whole house is continually full of smoke. Folks that smoke “the modern way” (only outside, etc) will probably only smell when coming back from a smoke for a bit, or maybe the breath/fingertips up close.
A lot of countries still do. Japan has changed a lot in the 15isj years since I first came and even more in the decade I’ve been living here
I have a old friend from school times and both of his parents smoked heavily making his freshly washed clothes smell like ashes. Every time he opened his sports bag in the changing rooms I could feel the smell meters away. Fortunately he never developed a smoking habit.
Yes, that was super normal. I actually broke up with a guy because I couldn’t stand to go to his house, because his father spent all night smoking in a chair in front of the TV, and his mother spent the night drinking a whole box of Chardonnay over ice, smoking endlessly, and calling every single person she knew on the planet all night long until she was hiccuping drunk and the father had to put her to bed. It never would have gone anywhere so it didn’t matter but it was just disgusting. Then in the late 90s my mother took up smoking again after quitting for several years and insisted on doing it in the house, and it made me sick time and again.
My mother still does the recreational phone call thing and I seriously don’t fucking get it. Are the people she is calling endlessly just too polite to tell her to chill out? For decades on end?
I would sometimes sit in the next room and listen to her, and she was in the very old saying “threshing old straw”, going over fights and arguments and insults and such she had had years before. Like clearly what she needed was therapy.
Maybe they’re the same way as her?
Imagine being clock blocked by your Dad’s smoking habit. Tough break. Thanks Dad.
I quite a pack a day habit 12 years ago and one of the first things I noticed when my sense of taste and smell returned was how aweful smokers smelled when they’d walk into a building after a cigarette. I had thought the smell was off me within maybe 10 minutes but I found out quick that the smell never really goes away. Feels like a previous life thinking I smoked because I can’t see myself ever smoking even a single cig for the rest of my life because it’s so revolting to me now. Oddly enough, however, sometimes I’ll see someone light up a fresh cig in a movie or something and I’ll get this strong 2-3 second craving for a smoke. It’s so strange how even over 12 years since my last one, I still get these strange urges for a cig by seeing someone of TV light one up.
My aunt hasn’t smoked in 40 years and she says she still gets the odd random moment like that, and she was really just a social smoker, it wasn’t a heavy habit for her. It’s funny.
In my Language there is a word for this, roughly translated into “Lung-Hunger”.
It’s not just the Nicotine.
Yeah I’ve got some herbal blend that I’ll roll up every now and again when my brother the smoker comes over, and I kind of get a pang like I’d also like one.
Dont worry americans if you want to smell smoke 24/7 just come to france or eastern europe.
Hit the ground in Germany, bombarded by smokers almost instantaneously.
That surprises me, but noted !
I went to Italy last year and the outdoor seating of restaurants probably had a solid millimetre thick later of tobacco all over
Germany is worse than France ime.
Hmm ive been to a lot of european countries quite a few times and france seemed like the worst out of the high income/western ones. The worst is still hungary(where i grew up) where its absolutely horrible and we also have the highest rate of lung cancer. Smoking is literally a cancer to society. The best in terms of smoking is sweden where i live now, everyone uses snus which is better for both the users and bystanders because theres no smoke, its just a nicotine packet they put in their mouth.
