• Piranha Phish@lemmy.world
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      13 hours ago

      I don’t know if this was true at some point, but this is definitely a false statement today.

      I have a Framework 16 w/o dGPU and it is perfect. It has long battery life, awesome performance, and has no thermal issues at all. Then there’s all the features which I don’t think I need to get into here. But I will call out support for lvfs/fwupdmgr; it’s great and in line with what I have seen with Dell and Lenovo.

      This is my forever laptop

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      15 hours ago

      They have their shortcomings but it’s all worth it to have pro-sumer hardware, in my opinion. I just can’t bear to give my money to consumer-hostile companies anymore.

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        15 hours ago

        True, that’s why I mostly buy used. I can’t see myself buying any electronic new except for important main computer or server parts

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          15 hours ago

          Buying used is not as bad but still supports the resale value of consumer-hostile devices, which indirectly supports their new value.

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            15 hours ago

            I buy from a local electronic recycler, I highly doubt there is any downside from them saving stuff from being thrown away

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              15 hours ago

              They wouldn’t save it from being thrown away if people like you weren’t buying them.

              Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to say its bad, just that buying from consumer-friendly companies as new is still better, in my opinion.

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                15 hours ago

                They literally take apart the electronics and recycle all the valuable parts. Why’re you arguing with me over something you don’t understand?

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      2 days ago

      There’s plenty of cooling capability. This thing has two fans that can get to sounding like a jet engine if it gets that hot. And it’s ventilated enough that it actually cools it down.

      If anything, it’s loud as hell under heavy load, but cooling isn’t a problem either.

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          2 days ago

          Under heavy load. If you saturate any CPU and GPU, you’re going to have it heat up quickly, and depending on your cooling profile, your fans will ramp up.

          What the noise actually says is that the fans make noise, and the laptop body doesn’t do much to dull the noise.

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      2 days ago

      Mine is awesome

      Battery life was shit at the start, but now it’s pretty reasonable. Can’t tell for sure what the difference is. I’m just starting to investigate again, after all the pre Christmas stress is over

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        1 day ago

        I use mine almost entirely plugged in (with the 80% battery limiter on in the BIOS)… Any idea if I’m killing the battery life by doing this?