The account requirement is insignificant compared to the mountain of other reasons not to use windows.
Android works just fine without an account, you just cant use any google services.
Somewhat untrue by my experience. If you use a custom Rom purposely built without google’s garbage then yes, sure. But on normal devices, even if you don’t log into a google account, android is still going to use google services for at least notifications and location. Google Play Services will still be running in the background all the time sending constant network requests.
When was the argument for linux ever about convenience?
At this point I’d argue it’s more convenient anyway. Most flavors install quicker and simpler than windows. It runs faster due to less bloat and bullshit. For the vast majority of people on this planet who only ever need to get to a browser. It’s a better experience. Just one they wouldn’t be familiar with so they’re “scared” to try it.
We really dont have a fucking choice at the moment. Linux phones arent good enough yet and degoogling android completely is nigh impossible unless you have a pixel.
Who tf logs in to Mega? 🤣
Replace with your cloud of choice.
that would be my self hosted nextcloud :)
You can use android and iOS without an account tho
You can use W11 without an account as well. I am doing that right now. Either tick an option in Rufus or use the IoT ISOs.
You don’t need such nerdy shenanigans for iOS. You just press skip. Your argument is invalid.
And then you can’t even install an app as the Appstore needs Apple ID. You got yourself a flat camera with an OLED screen. Good job.
Thanks to the EU that’s about to change. Counterpoint: Windows has S mode.
(To be clear I’m not defending Apple, I’m just saying you’re mistaken)
You shouldn’t have to sign into any account just to use your operating system. This is wrong regardless of OS. It’s wrong and bad on iOS and proprietary Androids, and it’s wrong and bad on Windows. Also, it wasn’t even a thing on Windows before Win8. Don’t just blindly accept such enshittification. It would be tolerable if it would be opt-in and purely optional, but MS is pretty much enforcing this crap upon their users, and that’s more than a red line being crossed. That’s simply hostility towards their users.
MS noticed that people do this willingly on iOS/proprietary Android and thought hey if we do this on Windows we can harvest even more data from the logged-in users and we have a confirmation of identity and also always get their current IP address and more device data.
To better sell this to the average user, they offer some minor benefits such as settings synchronization across devices, for which they also harvest your settings data, obviously (and even more they’re not telling you directly). Either way, the only real reason they want this is to know who uses their OS, to control access (they could disable your account) and to harvest even more data from the logged-in users. With local user accounts, as it should be, this would not be possible.
Online accounts make sense for online services, not for your OS which should work independently from online services.
Either use a Linux distro (desktop/notebook/server/mobile) or an open-source Android distro such as GrapheneOS, DivestOS, /e/OS, CalyxOS, LineageOS (mobile).
I just don’t understand why would a regular user using android/ios switch to Linux from Windows just because it requires an account now as well. They still get all of the benefits of Windows, and all that’s needed is to sign in.
It’s like saying people want to switch to electric cars because it’s quieter. While it is true, it’s not all the advantages. It’s just one of them.
No, we should not, as a Microsoft Online Account is absolutely unnecessary. And so is a google account and apple Id.
They only exist to keep you in a walled garden of fostered services.
Microsoft Account: Windows, OneDrive, Teams.
Google Account: Google, Chrome, Android, Youtube, Google Mail etc. (too many to list)
Apple Id: uh, I guess purchases in the app store and apple music.
The other examples are for one service only, reducing friction of moving to other services (if there is one)
Well, Windows is shipped with Xbox apps as well as MS store. A lot of people use those. Office and OneDrive is used a lot too. One account signs you into every one of their products.
as I said, Walled Garden. And no, you don’t get Office with an Microsoft Account, you need a subscription to Office 365 to use those applications.
This is some madthumbs content right here.
I don’t think it’s the reason, but my guess is that people see their PC as personal property in the sense of “I get to decide what happens to my hardware”, while others are more like services.
Android would be similar, but as far as I know I can still use my phone without a Google account, and then there’s people that completely de-googled their phone so it doesn’t even apply to them.
Yep, you still can use Android without a Google account, and you don’t have to jump through any hoops to opt out. I always set mine up w/o an account because I typically have to go through several OOBE wizards with a new device to run OTA updates, then clear the user partition and such before installing Lineage.
Ya kinda akin to having to muck with the cli to get windows 11 to use a local account though. A garbage trend.
It’s because you need a cloud based account for a local device that should be able to run without internet access using a local only account. I don’t need a cloud based account to log into my local Linux machine… or previous Windows machines.
Now, if I want to log into a cloud service then I’ll need an account for that service, but not for the device itself.
more than one thing can do the same bad thing, that doesn’t stop it being bad.
You can literally use W11 without an account so easily. But rather than showing people how to do that it’s preferable to use this opportunity to preach about Linux. That’s really sad.
Most people don’t care about the account requirement, considering Windows 11 is running on hundreds of millions of computers. An for those who care, tick an option in rufus.
You can literally use W11 without an account so easily
is it though? You need to jump through several hoops to get a local account. And why is it so complicated when previous version, heck even Windows 10 showed an easy way (albeit a nagging process).
Yep. This “meme” is straight-up whataboutism.
How is this relevant to Linux memes?
https://slrpnk.net/post/15427609 Half of the posts here are basically “Windows bad” memes.
So because you project your habit of creating a million unnecessary accounts onto other people requiring an account for Windows isn’t bad somehow?
PS: Android works without one btw… for those who actually use stock android anyway.
PPS: Also do you seriously believe there aren’t 1 Million other reasons by Windows is bullshit?
