• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Probably not “Marcus is gay” since they didn’t have a similar idea of sexuality, it being more or less a free-for-all.

    • Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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      8 days ago

      Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!

      Amplicatus, I know that Icarus is buggering you. Salvius wrote this.

      Theophilus, don’t perform oral sex on girls against the city wall like a dog

      I have buggered men

      Secundus likes to screw boys.

      If anyone sits here, let him read this first of all: if anyone wants a screw, he should look for Attice; she costs 4 sestertii.

      The one who buggers a fire burns his penis

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    7 days ago

    I learned in my scandinavian class in college that they dug up a nordic tavern ruin, and inside found a stick with carved runes on it. When translated, it said something to the effect of “HELGA SAYS COME HOME RIGHT NOW.”

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    8 days ago

    I visited a 17,000 year old cave painting site in France, and the whole walk into the cave there are modern day graffiti signatures like “Bob, 1992” etc. but then you start to notice that the years go back further and further…1827…1761…1597. Then you get to the old cave art and it kind of feels like a continuation of the same shit, just some people leaving their scribbles on a rock like they have been probably since they discovered how to do it.

  • salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 days ago

    I liked the story about the “very high” runes and so I found a source. Apparently, the writing was “Tholfir Kolbeinsson carved these runes high up”.

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    People think humanity is so much more evolved now but it has been actually the same shit from thousands ago or whenever recorded history goes back.

    Also: portuga was here

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      Millions of years, likely. The whole reason we’re successful is because our pre-human ancestors were empathetic and cooperative enough to build societies.

      We see those same traits in many other primates, and they’re not something it makes sense to evolve, lose, and evolve again. Those traits predate us.

      Language almost certainly predates us, since we see it not only in other primates, but in non-primate species, too. And based on the humour we see in many animals, you can bet we were making dick jokes nearly out of the gate.

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        Societies weren’t built on empathy, they were built on security. Not just physical security but food as well. No society in history was built on empathy, ever.

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              What about caring for the elderly and disabled? We see anthropological evidence of many behaviours that can only be explained by compassion and empathy, some of which would have actually detracted from security.

              The notion that the early formation of societies was based on security rather than empathy is outdated. Compassion has many evolutionary advantages, especially in primate species where offspring are born vulnerable. It’s clearly evident in other primates who live in groups (or ‘societies’), as a driving force of cooperation and group cohesion.

              Here’s a recent paper (2022) by Penny Spikins, PhD at the University of York, Department of Archaeology, that explores how compassion shaped early human evolution and the formation of societies: The Evolutionary Basis for Human Empathy, Compassion and Generosity.

              And here’s another from 2011 by Goetz et al that explores in detail the evolutionary advantages of compassion: Compassion: An Evolutionary Analysis and Empirical Review.

              Those papers are both fascinating reads, and I highly recommend them both for a deeper understanding of why and how empathy is crucial to our success as a species.

              e: a word

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      Always has been. This is where the whole “Dark Ages” idea comes from, IIRC: people further on in time wanting to separate themselves as special and more advanced.

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      Our ancestors’ brains went from chimpanzee-sized to modern-sized (actually slightly bigger than today) between two million and one million years ago, and more importantly the language-governing areas increased in size during that stretch. So human beings a million years ago were very much like us today, just without the advanced technology.

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    I would unironically watch something called ‘Ancient Shitposting’ that focused on old graffiti and pisstakes. It would still be more relevant to history than most of what is on channels with History in the name these days.

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      I want a spinoff focusing on animals fucking with humans in ancient times, like paw prints in bricks or on documents. Must be a treasure trove of hilarious antics throughout the times

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        I know a number of Roman and medieval European tiles have been found. I’m sure there’s more around the world because cats gonna cat.

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          The only exception would be in places like the Americas where they didnt have any domestic cats, though who knows maybe someone tried domesticating mountain lions which are in the same family as housecats.

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            Well, there’s more than just cats, but true. Wolves, dogs, monkeys, and just about anything else could be traipsing about.

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      9 days ago

      This isn’t garbage, this is good banter.

      A bored guy engraving runes at an height of 3.8 meters just to mess with the next guy reading it, an artist or worker sculpting his name into a work, ordered by the class in power (church) just to give the finger to the clergy, Mozart creating a piece to get revenge on the rich class that held him prisoner to work on what was asked to him instead of having liberty to create as he pleased…

      Good, old fashioned, rebellion.

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        I’m talking about the destructive graffiti. That’s not rebellion, that’s shitting things up. It’s why we can never have nice things—because some asshole(s) just have to destroy shit. I love good street art, but that shit is just marking shit up to be an ass. And if you think that shit’s ok, you’re an ass, too.

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          Tagging is a form of urban cancer on its own. Full stop. But depending on what is writen, the border between reactionism and vandalism blurs.

          I grew up in a very urban setting, after a political revolution, and the graffiti on the walls were words of anger, of calling out those who had cooperated with the old regime, slurs, etc.

          Every word, line, trace, was disfiguring the buildings, statues and whatever surface it landed on but carried meaning, a message.

          The Pompeii graffiti were gratuitous in nature but it was a city and part of a civilization know for being prone to excess. Today, those graffiti are living testaments of our colective history, although not much diferent from common and crude public bathroom scribbles.

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            You downvote me because I differentiate between trash tags and actual street art? Not all street art is sanctioned, but there is street art that is technically vandalism, but it’s still good art that brings some color to an otherwise drab concrete jungle. In any case, it can be removed, but carving shit in isn’t so easy to fix.

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              I didn’t. I don’t care about the votes system; you engaged me in conversation, I replied, let’s keep going. Does not care if we disagree on our views, we’re discussing ideas and that matters by itself.

              You’re right. The value of anything, especially art, resides on the eye of the person looking at it, so, at this point, I will admit defeat on my previous argument.

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                Seeing as how there are more at this point, it must be the assholes that do such things being butthurt. Be mad, bitches.

                Anyway, we don’t totally disagree. You’re spot on about Mozart! Fuck the clergy. And fuck being a slave to anyone. In the words of Killer Mike, “kill your masters”.