• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Ya, CCCP started it all with Hitler

    Whut?

    Is this an attempt at a joke or do you really believe that?

    It’s hard to tell these days when someone is just pretending

      • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeOP
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        11 days ago

        Alright, let’s clear this up. The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact wasn’t what brought the US into WWII. That pact was a non-aggression agreement between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union signed in August 1939, which allowed both powers to avoid fighting each other while they focused on expanding their influence in Europe. This agreement directly led to the invasion of Poland and the start of WWII in Europe, but it didn’t prompt US involvement.

        The US didn’t enter the war until December 1941, over two years later, after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. That was the actual catalyst. Up until then, despite plenty of pro-Nazi and anti-Nazi sentiments among the populace, the US had largely followed an isolationist policy, though they supported the Allies with programs like Lend-Lease to aid Britain. The US’s decision to go to war was mostly a response to Japanese aggression, and Germany’s declaration of war on the US shortly afterward sealed the deal for full US involvement in both the Pacific and European theaters.

        So yeah, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was important for starting the conflict in Europe, but it wasn’t why the US entered WWII.

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          11 days ago

          I didn’t say it brought USA into the war, I said it was what kicked off ww2 and it was the fault of the soviets + nazi germany.

          You are correct, but you misunderstood me, or I wasn’t clear enough.

          Edit: I was not clear enough, I edited my post. In my mind the two things were separate, I just didn’t have the writing skills.

          • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.eeOP
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            11 days ago

            I didn’t say it brought USA into the war

            You literally did

            Ya, CCCP started it all with Hitler, the USA was forced in to the war.

            Now, perhaps this isn’t what you meant to say. It is, however, what you said

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              10 days ago

              It’s two things, separated by a comma. Like apples are green, I went to the doctor yesterday. Not very good writing I admit.

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          10 days ago

          So splitting up poland and the baltics wasn’t what started ww2?

          Let’s hear your version.

            • Valmond@lemmy.world
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              10 days ago

              So it’s time for insults.

              Yeah the great Soviet Union started off WW2 with Nazi Germany, like it or not. I know they don’t teach that in some countries and call it “the great patriotic war” instead. Yo know, to muddy the waters.

              • 100_kg_90_de_belin @feddit.it
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                9 days ago

                No insult needed, but talking to you feels like watching a fish try to climb a tree. The only thing that’s muddy is your understanding of history. Hopefully, you’ll get better at it after a few months in a laojiao camp.